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What frightened the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea?
How you would comment this, gentlemen?
"The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the destroyer USS Donald Cook has been gravely demoralized ever since their vessel was flown over in the Black Sea by a Russian Sukhoi-24 (Su-24) fighter jet which carried neither bombs nor missiles but only an electronic warfare device. ... "
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
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Do you believe that article word for word?Originally Posted by Balu
If you do, please look up the word- propaganda, then get back to me on it..--Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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To believe or not this is a matter of Religion. But the fact is that after this "assault" about 30 servicemen asked for resignation.Do you believe that article word for word?
If you do, please look up the word- propaganda, then get back to me on it..
Last edited by Balu; 05-30-2015 at 10:29 PM.
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Even if that were true there is another explanation. That is the dissatisfaction many service members have with being commanded by the fool, coward and traitor named obama!
Get used to our freedom of speech and our freedom to say what we think about our political leaders.
If you think that ship was blind you may be blind yourself IMHO.
I suspect that ship could have shot that rusky plane down any time it desired but was under "no fire unless fired upon orders"!
The coward obama is known for his insane --Rules of Engagement-- orders..
There is no magical device thats blocks all our electronic "military eyes".....
Wake up, you are dreaming methinks. -Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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Unfortunately Americans lost the feeling of reality - "Russia IS NOT a banana republic to speak the language you are accustomed to with." And you may only suspect. Let us suspect together:
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Last edited by Balu; 05-30-2015 at 11:18 PM.
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http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Secur...How-big-a-deal
Russian aircraft buzz US Navy destroyer: How big a deal?
The incident took place over the weekend in the international waters of the Black Sea – ‘a long way from US Navy bases and at the front doorstep’ of the Russian military, a naval analyst says.
By Anna Mulrine, Staff writer <time id="date-published" itemprop="datePublished" class="eza-publish_date outer_block all_caps" datetime="2014-04-15T18:34:00-04:00" title="Published: April 15, 2014 6:34 pm EDTLast updated: April 16, 2014 2:06 pm EDT" style="text-transform: uppercase; font-size: 11px; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: 0.04em; padding-right: 4px; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(136, 136, 136); padding-left: 10px;">APRIL 15, 2014</time>
WASHINGTON — When Russian attack aircraft buzzed the USS Donald Cook in the international waters of the Black Sea, even as tensions in the region ratchet up, Pentagon officials decried the move as “provocative.”
How big a deal are these “provocative” actions on the part of the Russian military – or were these just a couple of rogue Russian pilots out for a joy ride?
US military officials quickly dismissed the latter option. “I have difficulty believing that two Russian pilots, on their own, would choose to take such an action,” Col. Steve Warren said during a Pentagon briefing Monday.
“We’ve seen the Russians conduct themselves unprofessionally and in violation of international norms in Ukraine for several months,” he added.
During the cold war, these sorts of flybys “happened all the time,” says Christopher Harmer, a retired Navy officer who served as deputy director of future operations for the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet.
In fact, these kinds of incidents happen more often than ever makes it into the press, says Mr. Harmer, now a senior naval analyst with the Institute for the Study of War in Washington.
“We used to call it the ‘standard harassment package,’ ” and it was meant to send a message.
“It was their way of saying, ‘We the Russian military are still capable of monitoring the US Navy and still capable of putting ourselves in a position to harm you if it comes to that,’ ” he says.
Pentagon officials were quick to point out that the USS Cook “is more than capable of defending itself” against the Russian aircraft.
The incident, which took place Saturday, however, is “an overt reminder that this is their backyard,” Harmer adds, and that the Navy destroyer’s location in the Black Sea is “a long way from US Navy bases and at the front doorstep” of the Russian military.
The Russian aircraft flew within 1,000 yards of the ship and made roughly a dozen passes, but it did not fly over the destroyer, according to Pentagon officials.
“That is about as tame a flyby as you can get,” Harmer says. On the more aggressive end of the spectrum is a flyover of a ship such as an aircraft carrier, which happened on more than one occasion during Harmer’s time serving at sea.
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"A good face on a bad game." (c) What else could they say?! Let us see the other " non-professional act" (I wonder, who is professional and who is not not.)
March 23, 2015
Terrified US Aircraft Carrier Flees From Russian Subs To UK Safety
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
The Naval Surface Forces (NSF) of the Ministry of Defense (MoD) are reporting today that three nuclear-powered Akula-class submarines belonging to the 24th Submarine Division of the Northern Fleet (NF) successfully “war-gamed” the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt [photo 2nd left] causing it to “flee in terror” towards the waters off the Hampshire coast in the United Kingdom.
Within hours of the NSF reporting this critical incident, it’s interesting to note, British press sources confirmed that this US Navy behemoth of “100,000 tons of firepower” did indeed dock off Stokes Bay in Gosport stunning the thousands of spectators who jammed roads and lined the banks of the River Solent to see it, but which they, also, described as a port call, though none had been scheduled.
According to this NSF report, the USS Theodore Roosevelt, and its combat escort ships, had been detected on a course towards the operating zone of the Northern Fleet which President Putin had put on full combat alert last week in response to a “State of War” threat detected from the United Kingdom…a threat, the MoD adds to this report, was, likewise, in response to the Federations “Shock of March” battle plan revealed on 4 February.
With NATO forces, literally, lining the entire western border with troops, including the unprecedented US Army’s “Dragon Ride” armored convoy currently winding its way across six European nations, and Norway’s equally unprecedented “Joint Viking” combat war moves against the northern border, this report continues, President Putin himself gave the order to “target and disable” the USS Theodore Roosevelt.
As Russia had , this report further notes, the approach of the USS Theodore Roosevelt towards the Baltic Sea made it a “legitimate” target.
To how this US aircraft carrier was “disabled” by the Northern Fleet’s attack submarines, this report says, was due to the Federations successful implementation of “magrav technology” weapons which had previously been used against American warships, and had “disabled” them too.
In fact, NSF experts in this report state, it was only a few weeks ago that the USS Theodore Roosevelt was “sunk” by a French submarine using “magrav technology” off the coast of Florida during a war game wherein the Americans were testing their countermeasures against this revolutionary new weapon prior to their ships deployment to confront Northern Fleet forces.
The necessity of the US Navy to develop countermeasures against “magrav technology”, this report says, was clearly shown to them last year after Federation air forces completely disabled the feared AEGIS destroyer USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea. So demoralizing was this attack against the USS Donald Cook, when it limped into a Romanian port for repairs, all 27 of its officers put in for reassignment and/or retirement.
“Magrav technology”, its import to note, was conceived by the Iranian-born nuclear engineer Mehran Keshe [photo 3rd left], but whose works are banned from public use in the United States under an Executive Order signed by President Obama on 23 April 2012.
President Obama’s signing of his Executive Order against “magrav technology”, it should be remembered, was due to the Iranian’s using it to down, and then capture one of the United States most secretive and sophisticated drones in December, 2011, and then Iran sharing this new weapon with Syria too.
Immediately upon President Obama banning “magrav technology” in 2012, it should also be noted, Mehran Keshe replied to the American leader in an open letter by stating: ...
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1853.htm
Last edited by Balu; 05-31-2015 at 06:37 AM.
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I have to ask. Do you really believe all that propaganda?"A good face on a bad game." (c) What else could they say?! Let us see the other " non-professional act" (I wonder, who is professional and who is not not.)
March 23, 2015
Terrified US Aircraft Carrier Flees From Russian Subs To UK Safety
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
The Naval Surface Forces (NSF) of the Ministry of Defense (MoD) are reporting today that three nuclear-powered Akula-class submarines belonging to the 24th Submarine Division of the Northern Fleet (NF) successfully “war-gamed” the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt [photo 2nd left] causing it to “flee in terror” towards the waters off the Hampshire coast in the United Kingdom.
Within hours of the NSF reporting this critical incident, it’s interesting to note, British press sources confirmed that this US Navy behemoth of “100,000 tons of firepower” did indeed dock off Stokes Bay in Gosport stunning the thousands of spectators who jammed roads and lined the banks of the River Solent to see it, but which they, also, described as a port call, though none had been scheduled.
According to this NSF report, the USS Theodore Roosevelt, and its combat escort ships, had been detected on a course towards the operating zone of the Northern Fleet which President Putin had put on full combat alert last week in response to a “State of War” threat detected from the United Kingdom…a threat, the MoD adds to this report, was, likewise, in response to the Federations “Shock of March” battle plan revealed on 4 February.
With NATO forces, literally, lining the entire western border with troops, including the unprecedented US Army’s “Dragon Ride” armored convoy currently winding its way across six European nations, and Norway’s equally unprecedented “Joint Viking” combat war moves against the northern border, this report continues, President Putin himself gave the order to “target and disable” the USS Theodore Roosevelt.
As Russia had , this report further notes, the approach of the USS Theodore Roosevelt towards the Baltic Sea made it a “legitimate” target.
To how this US aircraft carrier was “disabled” by the Northern Fleet’s attack submarines, this report says, was due to the Federations successful implementation of “magrav technology” weapons which had previously been used against American warships, and had “disabled” them too.
In fact, NSF experts in this report state, it was only a few weeks ago that the USS Theodore Roosevelt was “sunk” by a French submarine using “magrav technology” off the coast of Florida during a war game wherein the Americans were testing their countermeasures against this revolutionary new weapon prior to their ships deployment to confront Northern Fleet forces.
The necessity of the US Navy to develop countermeasures against “magrav technology”, this report says, was clearly shown to them last year after Federation air forces completely disabled the feared AEGIS destroyer USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea. So demoralizing was this attack against the USS Donald Cook, when it limped into a Romanian port for repairs, all 27 of its officers put in for reassignment and/or retirement.
“Magrav technology”, its import to note, was conceived by the Iranian-born nuclear engineer Mehran Keshe [photo 3rd left], but whose works are banned from public use in the United States under an Executive Order signed by President Obama on 23 April 2012.
President Obama’s signing of his Executive Order against “magrav technology”, it should be remembered, was due to the Iranian’s using it to down, and then capture one of the United States most secretive and sophisticated drones in December, 2011, and then Iran sharing this new weapon with Syria too.
Immediately upon President Obama banning “magrav technology” in 2012, it should also be noted, Mehran Keshe replied to the American leader in an open letter by stating: ...
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1853.htm
Are you not aware that such propaganda has been espoused by the old USSR and now Russia since immediately after WW2?
The U.S. military has advanced weapons that you guys have not a clue about.-Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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I will remain you in your beliefs, my dear friend. I noticed since late 60-s, that everything not corresponding to their imaginations the Americans use to call "propaganda". The only think I can assure you with is that those, who are responsible for it do not eat their bread for nothing. And no need to tell me about your facilities in Alaska.
The other think I would remind you of is that your famous invisible air-craft was shot down in Yugoslavia by an ancient AA complex "C-125" designed somewhere in 60-s.
Last edited by Balu; 05-31-2015 at 07:47 AM.
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Perhaps I should remind you--Reagan defeated the USSR with the mere stroke of a pen!-TyrI will remain you in your beliefs, my dear friend. I noticed since late 60-s, that everything not corresponding to their imaginations the Americans use to call "propaganda". The only think I can assure you with is that those, who are responsible for it do not eat their bread for nothing.
The only think I would remind you of is that your famous invisible air-craft was shot down in Yugoslavia by an ancient AA complex "C-125" designed somewhere in 60-s.
We now have things far more powerful than a pen. A soon as the obama is gone , Russia's boasting and aggression, will be dealt with in a proper way IMHO.
Enjoy your cereal while the milk lasts amigo.. -Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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Putin is not Gorbachev, and his successor will not be neither. We are able students and we learned very fast the lessons you taught us.
Last edited by Balu; 05-31-2015 at 07:59 AM.
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and Balu's propaganda regarding war games is just that. Good lord! That was comical.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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Well, then perhaps you should learn that the house cat does not fight and defeat a tiger.Putin is not Gorbachev, and his successor will be neither. We are able students and we learned very fast the lessons you taught us.
Appears to me that they are teaching over there that the cat morphed into a tiger.
Good that you are a student learning new things. You should learn to discern propaganda from truth. It would greatly improve your life and understanding .-Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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Your confidence in your own unsurpassed once may serve you bad service.
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It may sound well for a freshman. But I am a pensioner and in my life I visited and worked in many countries, so I am able to judge what is what. I've got some experience under my belt.
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