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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    Your confidence in your own unsurpassed once may serve you bad service.
    and if YOU think that most Americans believe what you think we believe, you are not dealing with reality.


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    To believe or not this is a matter of Religion. But the fact is that after this "assault" about 30 servicemen asked for resignation.
    Says who? The Conspiracy Theorist Voltaire Network? Those idiots think 9/11 was a US internal plot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire_Network#Notoriety

    The only link in the article is to this one, http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/penta...hip-black-sea/, and there is no mention of electronic devices, sailors resigning or "The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the destroyer USS Donald Cook has been gravely demoralized".

    Logically, if the Russias did have such a device, why aren't they flying all over the Ukraine with it? All over Chechnya and anywhere else people oppose them? If this story were true, then the Russians are screwing up by not maximizing their use of this new miracle weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max R. View Post
    Logically, if the Russias did have such a device, why aren't they flying all over the Ukraine with it? (1) All over Chechnya and anywhere else people oppose them? If this story were true, then the Russians are screwing up by not maximizing their use of this new miracle weapon.
    First Russia DOES NOT fight in Ukraine. Russia HAS no intention to occupy it with all it's debts an ruined economy.
    Second, this is NEWLY developed facility to be employed under certain conditions. And as far as our country doesn't conduct combat operations, there are no fields to use it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    How you would comment this, gentlemen?

    "The State Department acknowledged that the crew of the destroyer USS Donald Cook has been gravely demoralized ever since their vessel was flown over in the Black Sea by a Russian Sukhoi-24 (Su-24) fighter jet which carried neither bombs nor missiles but only an electronic warfare device. ... "


    http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
    That's an easy comment. Bullshit.

    If you think a guided missile destroyer can't shoot that crap out of the sky, you just ain't thinking. And I don't know ANY squids that'll back down to a dumbass plane.

    You go ahead and fuck with some squid's boat. I want a beer cooler, panama hat, bermuda shorts and a lounge chair. I'll sit up on deck and wait. I figure you might live right up to the point you piss off the engineering Chief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Do you believe that article word for word?
    If you do, please look up the word- propaganda, then get back to me on it.. --Tyr
    Squids are mighty particular about their boats. You'd think they were married to them.

    Propaganda is an understatement. That plane would have so many holes in it it could be used as a spaghetti strainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    To believe or not this is a matter of Religion. But the fact is that after this "assault" about 30 servicemen asked for resignation.
    Fact is ... BULLSHIT. I can hear the comm center now: Can we shoot this fucker down?

    No.

    Why not? We've got 4 seawhiz's and 6 missiles locked on target and are tracking every inch he thinks he can make.

    It wouldn't be nice.

    Got your orders from Obama, huh?
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    How funny!

    The Russian pilot was very careful not to fire up his targeting systems because he knew that he and that plane would have been vaporized within seconds.

    Demoralized because of a flyby? LOL

    Come on, Balu, you can do better than that.

    If you Russians are wanting to demoralize the U.S. Navy sailors, you're going to have to sink their ship. Otherwise, I'm afraid you have no way to demoralize them.



    Your guns are cute. It's nice that you've caught up to U.S. technology in use since 1973. Have you seen the new lasers that we're installing on our warships and warplanes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    "A good face on a bad game." (c) What else could they say?! Let us see the other " non-professional act" (I wonder, who is professional and who is not not.)

    March 23, 2015
    Terrified US Aircraft Carrier Flees From Russian Subs To UK Safety
    By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

    The Naval Surface Forces (NSF) of the Ministry of Defense (MoD) are reporting today that three nuclear-powered Akula-class submarines belonging to the 24th Submarine Division of the Northern Fleet (NF) successfully “war-gamed” the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt [photo 2nd left] causing it to “flee in terror” towards the waters off the Hampshire coast in the United Kingdom.
    Within hours of the NSF reporting this critical incident, it’s interesting to note, British press sources confirmed that this US Navy behemoth of “100,000 tons of firepower” did indeed dock off Stokes Bay in Gosport stunning the thousands of spectators who jammed roads and lined the banks of the River Solent to see it, but which they, also, described as a port call, though none had been scheduled.
    According to this NSF report, the USS Theodore Roosevelt, and its combat escort ships, had been detected on a course towards the operating zone of the Northern Fleet which President Putin had put on full combat alert last week in response to a State of War” threat detected from the United Kingdom…a threat, the MoD adds to this report, was, likewise, in response to the Federations Shock of March” battle plan revealed on 4 February.
    With NATO forces, literally, lining the entire western border with troops, including the unprecedented US Army’s Dragon Ride” armored convoy currently winding its way across six European nations, and Norway’s equally unprecedented Joint Viking” combat war moves against the northern border, this report continues, President Putin himself gave the order to “target and disable” the USS Theodore Roosevelt.
    As Russia had , this report further notes, the approach of the USS Theodore Roosevelt towards the Baltic Sea made it a “legitimate” target.
    To how this US aircraft carrier was “disabled” by the Northern Fleet’s attack submarines, this report says, was due to the Federations successful implementation of “magrav technology” weapons which had previously been used against American warships, and had “disabled” them too.
    In fact, NSF experts in this report state, it was only a few weeks ago that the USS Theodore Roosevelt was “sunk” by a French submarine using “magrav technology” off the coast of Florida during a war game wherein the Americans were testing their countermeasures against this revolutionary new weapon prior to their ships deployment to confront Northern Fleet forces.
    The necessity of the US Navy to develop countermeasures against “magrav technology”, this report says, was clearly shown to them last year after Federation air forces completely disabled the feared AEGIS destroyer USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea. So demoralizing was this attack against the USS Donald Cook, when it limped into a Romanian port for repairs, all 27 of its officers put in for reassignment and/or retirement.
    Magrav technology”, its import to note, was conceived by the Iranian-born nuclear engineer Mehran Keshe [photo 3rd left], but whose works are banned from public use in the United States under an Executive Order signed by President Obama on 23 April 2012.
    President Obama’s signing of his Executive Order against “magrav technology”, it should be remembered, was due to the Iranian’s using it to down, and then capture one of the United States most secretive and sophisticated drones in December, 2011, and then Iran sharing this new weapon with Syria too.
    Immediately upon President Obama banning “magrav technology” in 2012, it should also be noted, Mehran Keshe replied to the American leader in an open letter by stating: ...

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1853.htm
    Wow. Are you 16 years old? Or 15? That carrier has enough firepower to reduce your entire country to rubble. Y'all are about as technologically advanced as we were in the 1970s.

    However, folks, this guy is a perfect example for voting the Dems out of office. They'd rather suck a$$ than put a bully in his place. If there's any reason that military people are frustrated it's because they won't turn us loose.
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    But I want you to go ahead and sink a US naval vessel. Go ahead and do it. You'll end up speaking English.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Y'all are about as technologically advanced as we were in the 1970s.
    In all fairness Russian capabilities have improved in the last 20 years or so thanks to commercially available western technologies. The Akula II subs built in the late 1990's, were the first quiet subs Russia or the USSR had ever built. Supposedly quieter than the US Los Angelo's class attack subs.
    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    How funny!

    Demoralized because of a flyby? LOL

    Come on, Balu, you can do better than that.

    If you Russians are wanting to demoralize the U.S. Navy sailors, you're going to have to sink their ship. Otherwise, I'm afraid you have no way to demoralize them.

    Your guns are cute. It's nice that you've caught up to U.S. technology in use since 1973. Have you seen the new lasers that we're installing on our warships and warplanes?
    1. It's a funny think, when you can visually see the fighter and is hot able to track this target. All the electronic is shut down and the only thing you have are black monitors of radars. Very encouraging. Tell me frankly, did you serve in the Army?
    2. I know what you are trying to speak about. I am familiar with the results of their tests.
    And now do enjoy a clip and think the subject over yourself.

    Russian Destroyer war ship in storm


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    Quote Originally Posted by sundaydriver View Post
    In all fairness Russian capabilities have improved in the last 20 years or so thanks to commercially available western technologies. The Akula II subs built in the late 1990's, were the first quiet subs Russia or the USSR had ever built. Supposedly quieter than the US Los Angelo's class attack subs.
    Like I said ... go ahead and screw with some squid's boat. I'll watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    1. It's a funny think, when you can visually see the fighter and is hot able to track this target. All the electronic is shut down and the only thing you have are black monitors of radars. Very encouraging. Tell me frankly, did you serve in the Army?
    2. I know what you are trying to speak about. I am familiar with the results of their tests.
    And now do enjoy a clip and think the subject over yourself.

    Russian Destroyer war ship in storm


    Nothing funny about orders to not engage.

    Arrogance will be your downfall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Like I said ... go ahead and screw with some squid's boat. I'll watch.
    Well. that goes without saying.
    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    1. It's a funny think, when you can visually see the fighter and is hot able to track this target. All the electronic is shut down and the only thing you have are black monitors of radars. Very encouraging. Tell me frankly, did you serve in the Army?
    2. I know what you are trying to speak about. I am familiar with the results of their tests.
    And now do enjoy a clip and think the subject over yourself.

    Russian Destroyer war ship in storm


    I AM a United States Marine. I'll take a sword and hack your head off. You and and any of your commie fuckwit buddies. I'm just that mean and just that talented. War is my game.

    You think your pissant dumb ass can take on a guided missle destroyer. Go for it.

    You aren't here for honest discouse. You're here to post propaganda. You can take your propoaganda and shove it up your ass. Destroying things is my job. You can't be first, but you CAN be next.
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