Freedom, Democracy - definitions.

[fj1200]

There's a huge difference between expanding the franchise to those without and making a system more open to fraud such as motor/voter or the new idea of 'automatic registration' at 18.

What prohibition has to do with my point? Got me.

Dang-it, sorry. Repeal the 17th.

[Drummond]

Despite all of your usual bluster, FJ .. even YOU have had to finally move from your obviously impossible situation. Dragged, kicking and screaming, certainly ... but movement is there !

You mean when I say I'm for small government and then back big government decision making? Oh wait, that's you idiot.

You've claimed extreme loyalty to Margaret Thatcher's 'Thatcherism', by billing yourself as 'The One True Thatcherite', and 'Ultimate Thatcherite'. Not just some loyalty. Extreme loyalty. Loyalty over and above other Thatcherites out there.

If true ... it would be impossibly odd for you to then depart from any of what Mrs Thatcher stood for.

However, finally, after much contention, we get this ....

I feel though that I must point out that if being a Thatcherite means you mindlessly parrot what occurred whether it was the right or best solution then yes, you are the true Thatcherite. You apparently feel that you get to be the ultimate definer of Thatcherism.

Not the 'ultimate' definer, no. I leave such grandiose, unbelievable self-praise to you. No ... just a CONSISTENT one. One loyal to all she stood for, not just 'bits' of it.

What you insisted was true of you, that you somehow stood head and shoulders above other Thatcherites, COULD NOT be squared against your blanket disapproval of any Big Government decision-making. I knew it. You didn't want to admit to it, but you did, too. You could NOT be genuine.

Now, though, there's movement of yours, and that in defiance of all your ridiculous self-praise rot. Now, you're no longer an automatic advocate of her beliefs. Meaning, you've finally had to admit the fraudulent nature of your 'bona fides'. Of course you did. Before, you weren't making any sense.

CONGRATULATIONS ON SOME HONESTY, NO MATTER HOW BEGRUDGINGLY OFFERED.

Do I mindlessly parrot all that Mags did? Nope, never claimed to.

Exactly the problem ! You've claimed to be the 'ultimate' Thatcherite. How could any 'ultimate' supporter of hers possibly fail to be THE most unwaveringly loyal follower around ????

This is what helps expose your position as FRAUDULENT.

Do you mindlessly parrot? You sure do except when you feel Mags would bend her core beliefs.

More evidence of your fraudulent nature ! I've never suggested that she'd 'bend her core beliefs'. She was always true to her pragmatic approach to Government. So, this is YOUR INVENTION. And one which suggests an insult against her.

You just can't stop insulting Conservatives, can you, FJ ? Now ... WHY IS THAT ?

[fj1200]

Despite all of your usual bluster, FJ .. even YOU have had to finally move from your obviously impossible situation. Dragged, kicking and screaming, certainly ... but movement is there !

You've claimed extreme loyalty to Margaret Thatcher's 'Thatcherism', by billing yourself as 'The One True Thatcherite', and 'Ultimate Thatcherite'. Not just some loyalty. Extreme loyalty. Loyalty over and above other Thatcherites out there.

If true ... it would be impossibly odd for you to then depart from any of what Mrs Thatcher stood for.

However, finally, after much contention, we get this ....

WTF are you even talking about? Are you trying to save face by claiming some victory that isn't there?

Not the 'ultimate' definer, no. I leave such grandiose, unbelievable self-praise to you. No ... just a CONSISTENT one. One loyal to all she stood for, not just 'bits' of it.

What you insisted was true of you, that you somehow stood head and shoulders above other Thatcherites, COULD NOT be squared against your blanket disapproval of any Big Government decision-making. I knew it. You didn't want to admit to it, but you did, too. You could NOT be genuine.

Now, though, there's movement of yours, and that in defiance of all your ridiculous self-praise rot. Now, you're no longer an automatic advocate of her beliefs. Meaning, you've finally had to admit the fraudulent nature of your 'bona fides'. Of course you did. Before, you weren't making any sense.

CONGRATULATIONS ON SOME HONESTY, NO MATTER HOW BEGRUDGINGLY OFFERED.

I am incredibly loyal to what she stood for. You are not. hint: read my signature. I'm just not loyal to what she did if it wasn't a conservative solution. You repeat over and over you're loyal to her big government solutions which proves YET AGAIN THAT YOU'RE NOT A CONSERVATIVE!

Wow, I said that in bold and all caps so it's obviously true by drummond/Knucklehead standards and cannot be denied.

Exactly the problem ! You've claimed to be the 'ultimate' Thatcherite. How could any 'ultimate' supporter of hers possibly fail to be THE most unwaveringly loyal follower around ????

This is what helps expose your position as FRAUDULENT.

So by your own evidence you're not much of a Thatcherite either.

More evidence of your fraudulent nature ! I've never suggested that she'd 'bend her core beliefs'. She was always true to her pragmatic approach to Government. So, this is YOUR INVENTION. And one which suggests an insult against her.

You just can't stop insulting Conservatives, can you, FJ ? Now ... WHY IS THAT ?

I've never insulted a conservative you mindless fool. You're just still smarting since I pointed out your hypocrisy.