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    So, our illustrious leader decides to make a gun control speech before these poor people are even buried. Always one to wrench a political point out of any issue.

    Could he be any more divisive? It is getting so bad, that I could actually see our country turning to a civil war under his "leadership". Black vs White, Rich vs. Poor, Gun Owners vs. Liberals, etc.

    The only time that I can see him NOT being similarly divisive, is if a 9/11-type Muslim attack happens. I believe in that case he would no doubt rush to downplay the incident, and any attendant political bonanza to be achieved.


    (fj- apologies for bringing up both Obama and Muslims )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    So, our illustrious leader decides to make a gun control speech before these poor people are even buried. Always one to wrench a political point out of any issue.

    Could he be any more divisive? It is getting so bad, that I could actually see our country turning to a civil war under his "leadership". Black vs White, Rich vs. Poor, Gun Owners vs. Liberals, etc.

    The only time that I can see him NOT being similarly divisive, is if a 9/11-type Muslim attack happens. I believe in that case he would no doubt rush to downplay the incident, and any attendant political bonanza to be achieved.


    (fj- apologies for bringing up both Obama and Muslims )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    (fj- apologies for bringing up both Obama and Muslims )
    Why should you have to apologize for bringing up BO and Muslims in the same thread when you make it about BO and Muslims... no matter how far you had to stretch.

    Nevertheless I do have an over/under on how many posts until until someone brings up BO in an pro-football thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Why should you have to apologize for bringing up BO and Muslims in the same thread when you make it about BO and Muslims... no matter how far you had to stretch.

    Nevertheless I do have an over/under on how many posts until until someone brings up BO in an pro-football thread.

    Actually, no stretch at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Actually, no stretch at all.
    You're right, my mistake, it's never a stretch around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You're right, my mistake, it's never a stretch around here.
    Dude, you KNOW you're letting me know what gets under your skin. right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Dude, you KNOW you're letting me know what gets under your skin. right?
    Nothing gets under my skin... except ignorance of course. And bad logic, ooh, that's just the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You're right, my mistake, it's never a stretch around here.
    Here's some logic:

    I am not everyone else.
    Unrelieved sarcasm gets old
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    Wow, Abbey is a Knucklehead now ? Cool welcome to the folks with some common sense Abbey.

    fj you really don't see how Obama is trying his damnedest to pull this country apart anyway he can, religion, race, politics you name it and if it can divide he will use it, all the while he runs with anything he wants as the country is to busy fighting with their enemy.

    OOO and by the way I am voting for Abbey to be the leader of the knuckleheads, being as her name is in those pretty red letters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Why should you have to apologize for bringing up BO and Muslims in the same thread when you make it about BO and Muslims... no matter how far you had to stretch.

    Nevertheless I do have an over/under on how many posts until until someone brings up BO in an pro-football thread.
    Abbey's not the President of the United States of America. Holding her to the same standard as we should be holding our elected leadership just goes to prove our elected leadership is no better than Joe the Plumber or anyone here.

    I, too, was disgusted that our President would quickly move to stand on the still-warm, unburied bodies of 9 innocent Americans to launch a political agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    So, our illustrious leader decides to make a gun control speech before these poor people are even buried. Always one to wrench a political point out of any issue.

    Could he be any more divisive? It is getting so bad, that I could actually see our country turning to a civil war under his "leadership". Black vs White, Rich vs. Poor, Gun Owners vs. Liberals, etc.

    The only time that I can see him NOT being similarly divisive, is if a 9/11-type Muslim attack happens. I believe in that case he would no doubt rush to downplay the incident, and any attendant political bonanza to be achieved.


    (fj- apologies for bringing up both Obama and Muslims )
    Nice rant. How bad is it when you can get under fj's skin?
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    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

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    How long should he have waited before making this speech?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    How long should he have waited before making this speech?
    Until the bodies cooled off would of been a good start.

    Or how about maybe he should quit the BS, if his laws had passed last year this kid still would of gotten the gun and did the same thing, I don't believe tragedies should ever be used for political gain, but especially when it is complete BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    How long should he have waited before making this speech?
    The part about memorializing the folks who were killed, anytime is ok. Using the opportunity to make a political speech?

    How would you like it if a family member were killed, and then someone gave a eulogy and used the opportunity to not speak about your family member, but rather about politics to his/her advantage? Wait, never mind, you would probably like it!

    And worse, this wasn't someone making a private speech at a church or funeral, but rather used to speak to the entire nation.

    There is NO time acceptable that someone's death should be used as a tool.
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