Obama (yup, him)

[Noir]

The part about memorializing the folks who were killed, anytime is ok. Using the opportunity to make a political speech?

How would you like it if a family member were killed, and then someone gave a eulogy and used the opportunity to not speak about your family member, but rather about politics to his/her advantage? Wait, never mind, you would probably like it!

And worse, this wasn't someone making a private speech at a church or funeral, but rather used to speak to the entire nation.

There is NO time acceptable that someone's death should be used as a tool.

Deaths are always used to justify actions or intentions.
This forum will jump on Obama when he does it of course.

[Gunny]

Deaths are always used to justify actions or intentions.
This forum will jump on Obama when he does it of course.

No. Blame the gun. Blame the flag. Blame the blacks. Let's blame everything but the truth ... the guy's a loser and he and you won't hold him accountable for his action. There's got to be some reason, right? Yeah, it's called being a pussy. He's one, you're one, and so is anyone else giving him an excuse.

There's NO excuse for what he did. He walked into a church and murdered people who were there to worship. The didn't bring their guns, nor their knives ... just their Bibles.

You disgust me.

[Noir]

No. Blame the gun. Blame the flag. Blame the blacks. Let's blame everything but the truth ... the guy's a loser and he and you won't hold him accountable for his action. There's got to be some reason, right? Yeah, it's called being a pussy. He's one, you're one, and so is anyone else giving him an excuse. There's NO excuse for what he did. He walked into a church and murdered people who were there to worship. The didn't bring their guns, nor their knives ... just their Bibles. You disgust me.

Almost got half way through a post before throwing an insult, almost.

You're welcome to highlight what i said that excuses the murders actions, when i've only been discussing Obamas comments.

[Jeff]

Noir this guy was bound and determine to commit murder, he sat there watching and listening to the bible study and then opened fire, he is a mental patient plain and simple. If he didn't have a gun maybe he would of used a car, maybe he would of made a home made bomb, no telling, all we know for sure is he was going to kill people. The problem isn't the weapon these nuts use, rather the nuts themselves.

[Gunny]

Almost got half way through a post before throwing an insult, almost.

You're welcome to highlight what i said that excuses the murders actions, when i've only been discussing Obamas comments.

You deserved it this time, junior.

[Jeff]

You deserved it this time, junior.

Gunny you have such a way with words, I am going to nominate you for board greeter, you are such a nice guy everyone will be thrilled to see ya.

[Noir]

You deserved it this time, junior.

I'm sure.
Still awaiting you highlighting what i said to excuse the murderers actions.

[fj1200]

Here's some logic:

Here's some better logic: Exactly who dragged me into this thread?

Wow, Abbey is a Knucklehead now ? Cool welcome to the folks with some common sense Abbey.

fj...

Who said either of you were knuckleheads? And BO sucks. He's a leftie and lefties generally suck when they get in decision making positions.

[Drummond]

Deaths are always used to justify actions or intentions.
This forum will jump on Obama when he does it of course.

Obama rode on the back of an atrocity / tragedy to advance a political agenda, and he did it at, arguably, THE worst, most raw, most callously cynical time he could have done so.

Disgusting - it truly is. And YES, Noir, that sort of timing is just as vile on our side of the Pond, too, whenever it happens.

[Drummond]

He's a leftie and lefties generally suck when they get in decision making positions.

When a Leftie decides - and in the absence of ANY supporting evidence - that terrorists are not only 'humans', but deserving of having their 'human rights' protected (!!), suddenly you're perfectly OK with their 'decision making positions'.

... Or had you forgotten ?

I look forward to the day, FJ, when you represent yourself HONESTLY on this forum !

[aboutime]

So, our illustrious leader decides to make a gun control speech before these poor people are even buried. Always one to wrench a political point out of any issue.

Could he be any more divisive? It is getting so bad, that I could actually see our country turning to a civil war under his "leadership". Black vs White, Rich vs. Poor, Gun Owners vs. Liberals, etc.

The only time that I can see him NOT being similarly divisive, is if a 9/11-type Muslim attack happens. I believe in that case he would no doubt rush to downplay the incident, and any attendant political bonanza to be achieved.


(fj- apologies for bringing up both Obama and Muslims )

Abbey. Based on Obama's past. IF (God forbid), we get another 9-11 with Muslim/Islamic/ISIS members taking credit. Obama will just side with them...agreeing that they are merely protecting themselves from the GREAT SATAN he leads!

[Drummond]

I'm sure.
Still awaiting you highlighting what i said to excuse the murderers actions.

Excusing them ?

How about belittling them .. seeing that it could be OK for Obama to use them, and at such a raw, insensitive time, for an excuse to advance a political agenda ?

[Gunny]

Excusing them ?

How about belittling them .. seeing that it could be OK for Obama to use them, and at such a raw, insensitive time, for an excuse to advance a political agenda ?

Don't forget Billary. She jumped on that crap like it was the last Twinkie in the box.

[Gunny]

Let's blame the gun ... let's blame the flag ... let's blame the color of their skin ... by BY GOD let's don't blame the idiot.

Billary thinks this problem needs to be addressed? Got news for you and it's called a choice. Choose between being PC and calling a nutcase a nutcase. The math isn't that hard. Want to be a left wing moron? Then live with your conflicting decisions.

[Abbey Marie]

Here's some better logic: Exactly who dragged me into this thread?



Who said either of you were knuckleheads? And BO sucks. He's a leftie and lefties generally suck when they get in decision making positions.

I never thought of my 1 point font sized-joke as "dragging you in", but if you see it that way, my apologies. I guess my humor is too opaque.

I will make sure not to mention you in future.

As for Obama, I KNOW you are not a fan, and I know you are not a liberal. I think I have said at least twice that you are a Contrarian.