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    Default Supreme Court extends same-sex marriage nationwide

    Hurry up and get off the streets, it's gonna be one big "gay pride" parade today. Yek.

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court declared Friday that same-sex couples have a right to marry anywhere in the United States.

    Gay and lesbian couples already could marry in 36 states and the District of Columbia. The court's 5-4 ruling means the remaining 14 states, in the South and Midwest, will have to stop enforcing their bans on same-sex marriage.

    The outcome is the culmination of two decades of Supreme Court litigation over marriage, and gay rights generally.

    Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion, just as he did in the court's previous three major gay rights cases dating back to 1996. It came on the anniversary of two of those earlier decisions.

    "No union is more profound than marriage," Kennedy wrote, joined by the court's four more liberal justices.

    The four dissenting justices each filed a separate opinion explaining their views.

    "But this court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in dissent. Roberts read a summary of his dissent from the bench, the first time he has done so in nearly 10 years as chief justice.

    Justice Antonin Scalia said he is not concerned so much about same-sex marriage, but about "this court's threat to American democracy." Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas also dissented.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...06-26-10-02-52
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    We Conservatives should embrace equal protection.
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    This is a symptom, not the disease. God will progressively withhold his blessing from our nation. Never give up hope for a national revival.
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    Experienced Social Distancer ... waaaay before COVID.

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    If God turns His back on us, we have nothing to complain about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    We Conservatives should embrace equal protection.
    I disagree with what you see as equal protection, it's that simple, but no biggie. We've already done this dance too many times. It's done and over, and they made the decision, so now it's law and to abide by. I can deal with that. But the country is still currently swirling around the shitter and this just sped up the swirling.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perianne View Post
    If God turns His back on us, we have nothing to complain about.
    Maybe God doesn't like his words being twisted into a vehicle of hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I disagree with what you see as equal protection, it's that simple, but no biggie. We've already done this dance too many times. It's done and over, and they made the decision, so now it's law and to abide by. I can deal with that. But the country is still currently swirling around the shitter and this just sped up the swirling.
    That was the basis for the decision wasn't it? I'm not sure I haven't seen yet. I disagree that's why we're swirling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Maybe God doesn't like his words being twisted into a vehicle of hate.
    "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." — Leviticus 20 v 13 - The Bible

    So, how would you go about twisting these words?

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    Quote Originally Posted by indago View Post
    "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." — Leviticus 20 v 13 - The Bible

    So, how would you go about twisting these words?
    God spoke in English? Interesting. Also, what else in Leviticus is null today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    That was the basis for the decision wasn't it? I'm not sure I haven't seen yet. I disagree that's why we're swirling.
    Obviously, I disagree with the decision, therefore disagree with their basis as well. I thought that was clear. And I knew you would disagree, but that's cool.
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    What maybe bothers me the most is that not one justice asked me what I thought! I have all the answers for all our problems!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perianne View Post
    What maybe bothers me the most is that not one justice asked me what I thought! I have all the answers for all our problems!!!!
    And it was 5-4, so only one of them needed to talk to you!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Obviously, I disagree with the decision, therefore disagree with their basis as well. I thought that was clear. And I knew you would disagree, but that's cool.
    I just wasn't sure if there was something else in the decision that I missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I just wasn't sure if there was something else in the decision that I missed.
    It's VERY VERY long, will take me few days to fully read. If interested, here it is...

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4-556_3204.pdf
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    I love the dissents thus far

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    Chief Justice John Roberts, along with Justices Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas dissented, and all wrote separate dissents.

    Alito wrote, “Today’s decision usurps the constitutional right of the people to decide whether to keep or alter the traditional understanding of marriage.”

    Roberts said gay marriage supporters should celebrate, but don’t celebrate the Constitution.

    “If you are among the many Americans—of whatever sexual orientation—who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today’s decision. Celebrate the achievement of a desired goal. Celebrate the opportunity for a new expression of commitment to a partner. Celebrate the availability of new benefits. But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it,” Roberts wrote.

    Scalia wrote his dissent “to call attention to this Court’s threat to American democracy.”

    “Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a
    majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact—and the furthest extension one can even imagine—of the Court’s claimed power to create “liberties” that the Constitution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves,” Scalia wrote.


    Thomas wrote, “Aside from undermining the political processes that protect our liberty, the majority’s decision threatens the religious liberty our Nation has long sought to protect.”

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/...ry-nationwide/
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