Grammar

[Perianne]

While it is considered rude to correct another person's grammatical mistakes, how often do you notice grammar? Is it important to you?

[NightTrain]

Very important.

I'm not as bad as I used to be about being a Grammar Nazi, and I refrain from correcting people for the most part, but it drives me up the wall when I see someone screw up They're, Their and There.

But nothing grinds my teeth more than seeing "So I saw a bunch of car's today."

[Perianne]

Very important.

I'm not as bad as I used to be about being a Grammar Nazi, and I refrain from correcting people for the most part, but it drives me up the wall when I see someone screw up They're, Their and There.

But nothing grinds my teeth more than seeing "So I saw a bunch of car's today."

I don't practice good grammar as rigidly as I should, but it's mostly because I don't want to take the time to look up the proper wordage.

[Drummond]

While it is considered rude to correct another person's grammatical mistakes, how often do you notice grammar? Is it important to you?

-- Hah !!

Should I disqualify myself from the rest of this thread ?? American usage of English is more different to British usage than is generally realised. I could discuss this on a number of levels, but I suggest I'd not be doing so very usefully !!

One thought that comes to mind is that examples might have made it to the level of American slang, and be in such common usage that they're considered acceptable because of it. Me, being a Brit ... it'd be immediately noticeable, and I'd reject it as incorrect to a level of completeness that most Americans wouldn't agree with.

And who am I to judge such things, as, actually, a foreigner, not privy to what is or is not seen as correct in America ?

Here's an example ...

'YOU DUMB'

Now, to me, that's just completely illiterate, and downright crass, and it's tempting to rush to judgment on that basis .. but, I've seen it multiples of times on this very forum. I'm unaware myself that it's correct usage, BUT, to an American, it might be in use enough to be acceptable to other Americans.

So I think I'll bow out of this thread ... since there's too much room for UNINFORMED disagreement ...

[Perianne]

-- Hah !!

Should I disqualify myself from the rest of this thread ?? American usage of English is more different to British usage than is generally realised. I could discuss this on a number of levels, but I suggest I'd not be doing so very usefully !!

One thought that comes to mind is that examples might have made it to the level of American slang, and be in such common usage that they're considered acceptable because of it. Me, being a Brit ... it'd be immediately noticeable, and I'd reject it as incorrect to a level of completeness that most Americans wouldn't agree with.

And who am I to judge such things, as, actually, a foreigner, not privy to what is or is not seen as correct in America ?

Here's an example ...



Now, to me, that's just completely illiterate, and downright crass, and it's tempting to rush to judgment on that basis .. but, I've seen it multiples of times on this very forum. I'm unaware myself that it's correct usage, BUT, to an American, it might be in use enough to be acceptable to other Americans.

So I think I'll bow out of this thread ... since there's too much room for UNINFORMED disagreement ...

NO! You continue in this thread as you are an intellectual person.

"You dumb" is black talk; something you haven't had the privilege of enjoying day after day until you want to pull your hair out.

[Drummond]

NO! You continue in this thread as you are an intellectual person.

Very sweet of you to say so ! Not sure I agree, but anyway ....

"You dumb" is black talk; something you haven't had the privilege of enjoying day after day until you want to pull your hair out.

Oh, I see.

Still, does that illustrate my point ? If there's a certain 'street cred' aspect to it, then we get to whether it's accepted, or ought to be (or not ?) ..

[NightTrain]

Yeah, "you dumb" screams illiteracy. Here on DP, I think it's more of a typo or a missed key strike of someone typing quickly.

American usage of English is more different to British usage than is generally realised.

You misspelled 'realized'.

[PixieStix]

While it is considered rude to correct another person's grammatical mistakes, how often do you notice grammar? Is it important to you?

Not really.

I hear people say, "expecially", and type "to", when it should be too. I just sigh and go on with my own business. It just rubs me wrong. No biggie

[Abbey Marie]

-- Hah !!

Should I disqualify myself from the rest of this thread ?? American usage of English is more different to British usage than is generally realised. I could discuss this on a number of levels, but I suggest I'd not be doing so very usefully !!

One thought that comes to mind is that examples might have made it to the level of American slang, and be in such common usage that they're considered acceptable because of it. Me, being a Brit ... it'd be immediately noticeable, and I'd reject it as incorrect to a level of completeness that most Americans wouldn't agree with.

And who am I to judge such things, as, actually, a foreigner, not privy to what is or is not seen as correct in America ?

Here's an example ...



Now, to me, that's just completely illiterate, and downright crass, and it's tempting to rush to judgment on that basis .. but, I've seen it multiples of times on this very forum. I'm unaware myself that it's correct usage, BUT, to an American, it might be in use enough to be acceptable to other Americans.

So I think I'll bow out of this thread ... since there's too much room for UNINFORMED disagreement ...

Drummond, that IS completely illiterate, and not acceptable in America, either. The fact that one is criticized for pointing out a glaring grammar mistake, is just another spoke in the wheel of America's fall from excellence. It is another instance of "who are you to judge my mediocrity?!"

Which is all the rave these days, doncha know?

[Perianne]

Even when texting, I use proper grammar.

[aboutime]

When I no longer hear Americans refer to questions with an AX, instead of ASK. Nobody, but Nobody should be offended when they feel a need to criticize anyone's Grammar.

There are many examples ALL OF US have heard, but to avoid being labeled as Racists, or for Profiling.....we choose the Politically Correct, Liberal path of remaining silent.

NOT ME. I'm tired of all the double-standard, double-speak, hypocrisy.
Even when I have tried to use proper grammar over the years. There's always somebody out there who feels SUPERIOR to everyone else...and calls us out for improper grammar...unless WE AX THEM!

[Drummond]

Yeah, "you dumb" screams illiteracy. Here on DP, I think it's more of a typo or a missed key strike of someone typing quickly.

You misspelled 'realized'.

... aha. Not according to BRITISH English, I didn't !!! The British often substitute an 's' for an American 'z' (pronounced 'zed' over here, not 'zee' .. I think the Canadians do the same thing ?).

Two examples off the top of my head --

CAUTERISE

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/d...tish/cauterise

HOMOGENISE

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/d...ish/homogenise

'You dumb' screams illiteracy at me, too .. we definitely agree on that one. But - it still begs the question as to whether there can be a legitimate reason for accepting it (see Perianne's comment on that).

LEGITIMISE ... there's another one !

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/d...ish/legitimise

Now, should I make sure my spelling always conforms to US expectations ? I'll be struggling, if 'yes' ...

[.. Reminds me of another American forum, far less well run than this one, where posters could impersonate others !! Impostors trying to copy me would always trip up on spellings - they just couldn't help themselves]

[Drummond]

Drummond, that IS completely illiterate, and not acceptable in America, either. The fact that one is criticized for pointing out a glaring grammar mistake, is just another spoke in the wheel of America's fall from excellence. It is another instance of "who are you to judge my mediocrity?!"

Which is all the rave these days, doncha know?

Thanks, Abbey !

As for your last sentence - it could've been typed by an east Londoner !! Irritating, all the same .....

[Drummond]

... just noticed.

CRITICISE .. another one !

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/d...tish/criticise

[NightTrain]

I know, Drummond... was my smartass idea of a weak joke.

NT make funny. Funny good!