America was founded as a Christian Nation

[glockmail]

I was debating an ACLU attorney at Christmas on an NPR station. I pulled out a Xerox copy of The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States and said to her:

"Until you answer this book, the ACLU can't make a case against America's Christian founding." She was shocked when she saw it. She asked where I had gotten it. The only thing that gave her relief was the fact that the book was not in print. But now it is.

Morris packs The Christian Life and Character with page after page of original source material making the case that America was founded as a Christian nation. The evidence is unanswerable and irrefutable. This 1000-page book will astound you and send enemies of Christianity into shock. Keep in mind that it was published in 1864 and has been out of print for more than a century. It has been newly typeset using a very readable font and added subheads. A new Foreword written by my long-time friend Dr. Archie Jones describes the background of the book and provides a brief biography of the author." --Gary DeMar

http://www.earlychristianamerica.com/index.html

[GW in Ohio]

http://www.earlychristianamerica.com/index.html

Oh, fuck you.

This country was founded by a bunch of Deists and renegade Christians who had seen first-hand what dogmatic Christian dogma can do to wreck people's lives and they definitely were against identifying this country with any one religion.

You might argue that this is a Christian nation because most people are nominally Christian, but there is no official religion.

And most of the people who are nominally Christian couldn't give a rat's ass about going to church or practicing Christianity.

[glockmail]

Oh, fuck you.

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As you have failed in every debate you've been in and ignored several previous direct challenges, then why should I take you seriously now?

[GW in Ohio]

As you have failed in every debate you've been in and ignored several previous direct challenges, then why should I take you seriously now?

And fuck your straw man challenges.

[Nukeman]

And fuck your straw man challenges.

My aren't we the testy one today!!!!!!!!!!

[Hagbard Celine]

BS. The US was founded as a secular nation by Christians. If you notice, they included judicial, legislative and executive branches of the government. I've never heard of any "theological" branch. You're wrong.

[glockmail]

And fuck your straw man challenges.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showpost...9&postcount=29



Straw man?

[J.T]

America was founded as a white nation

name one negroe founding father

name one mexican who signed the DOI

name any non-white who signed COTUS

America was founded by White men upon White culture and values

[fj1200]

America was founded by White men upon White culture and values

Then I guess that's why we have exactly the same structure as all the European countries that they originated from. Oh wait...

[J.T]

Then I guess that's why we have exactly the same structure as all the European countries that they originated from. Oh wait...

So we weren't founded on traditional, European, Christian values?

So much for the premise of the OP...

[-Cp]

Oh, fuck you.

I find your tone appalling.....and uncalled for...

[Hagbard Celine]

I find your tone appalling.....and uncalled for...

Yeah, because you're a regular angel in this department

[-Cp]

Yeah, because you're a regular angel in this department

Thanks for the acknowledgement...

[OCA]

Most of the institutions and laws of this country are rooted in biblical tradition, libs know this but why they deny it is a mystery.

Only complete fools continue to reject the idea that America was founded upon Christian values by hardcore Christians. Don't remember any stories of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists etc. etc. coming over on the Mayflower.

[-Cp]

Nope... none of our founders were Christians... Jeesh...

Try George Washington on for size:

By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.
Thanksgiving Proclamation

[New York, 3 October 1789]


Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor-- and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.

Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be-- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks--for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation--for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war--for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed--for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted--for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.

and also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions-- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually--to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed--to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord--To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us--and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

Go: Washington