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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    What part of Freedom OF religion don't you understand IE? And please point me toward muslim's who served in any way during the revolutionary war. The Barbary Pirates were not on our side. There were also no Buddhists, Samurai or Hindu's serving in the Continental Army.

    Jefferson kept a koran so he could study his enemy and what motivated him. Not out of any respect for the religion.
    It is believed that many former slaves that were drafted into the First Continental Army were Muslim.


    What was this conflict between Jefferson and the muslim Religion that you speak of? Why did Jefferson view Muslims as the enemy? I am asking, because I think you just made that up. As in you fabricated it out of thin air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    What part of Freedom OF religion don't you understand IE? And please point me toward muslim's who served in any way during the revolutionary war. The Barbary Pirates were not on our side. There were also no Buddhists, Samurai or Hindu's serving in the Continental Army.

    Jefferson kept a koran so he could study his enemy and what motivated him. Not out of any respect for the religion.


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    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InExtremis View Post
    It is believed that many former slaves that were drafted into the First Continental Army were Muslim.


    What was this conflict between Jefferson and the muslim Religion that you speak of? Why did Jefferson view Muslims as the enemy? I am asking, because I think you just made that up. As in you fabricated it out of thin air.


    It is believed that many former slaves that were drafted into the First Continental Army were Muslim.
    Believe by whom and give a link to this info please.
    I have studied this nation's history deeply, never saw any of this... -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by InExtremis View Post
    It is believed that many former slaves that were drafted into the First Continental Army were Muslim.


    What was this conflict between Jefferson and the muslim Religion that you speak of? Why did Jefferson view Muslims as the enemy? I am asking, because I think you just made that up. As in you fabricated it out of thin air.
    As Tyr said, believed by who. Sounds like that old "some people think..." used by media people to avoid naming who thinks that way.

    As for Jefferson, does the phrase, shores of Tripoli, ring a bell? Jefferson fought the Barbary Pirates, if you know anything about history. He wanted to understand his enemy and how they thought, how they could best be defeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    FYI.....I just found and downloaded a free .pdf copy of this book at:

    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/e...tes-of-america

    for anyone interested. Only thing is....the ebook is only 832 pages (not 1,000).

    Thanks for posting this! (and yeah, I know, I know....it's an old thread....but still very helpful/useful).
    Last edited by DLT; 10-05-2014 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InExtremis View Post
    It is believed that many former slaves that were drafted into the First Continental Army were Muslim.
    Typically when one makes such a claim as this one posts some kind of material upon which substantiation of the claim can be made.

    Quote Originally Posted by InExtremis View Post
    What was this conflict between Jefferson and the muslim Religion that you speak of? Why did Jefferson view Muslims as the enemy? I am asking, because I think you just made that up. As in you fabricated it out of thin air.
    Google is really your friend and it is VERY easy to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLT View Post
    FYI.....I just found and downloaded a free .pdf copy of this book at:

    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/e...tes-of-america

    for anyone interested. Only thing is....the ebook is only 832 pages (not 1,000).

    Thanks for posting this! (and yeah, I know, I know....it's an old thread....but still very helpful/useful).

    DLT. I'd be willing to bet. Better than fifty percent of the children in todays schools, their teachers, and even college students have NO IDEA what the Federalist Papers are, nor have they ever heard of them. And, I should also include a larger percentage of Wannabe Adults who complain when they are asked for a PHOTO ID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLT View Post
    FYI.....I just found and downloaded a free .pdf copy of this book at:

    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/e...tes-of-america

    for anyone interested. Only thing is....the ebook is only 832 pages (not 1,000).

    Thanks for posting this! (and yeah, I know, I know....it's an old thread....but still very helpful/useful).
    you are not offering as proof that the usa was founded on Christianity, a book written by a Christian zealot.......are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLT View Post
    FYI.....I just found and downloaded a free .pdf copy of this book at:

    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/e...tes-of-america

    for anyone interested. Only thing is....the ebook is only 832 pages (not 1,000).

    Thanks for posting this! (and yeah, I know, I know....it's an old thread....but still very helpful/useful).
    Thanks, but I have a leather bound version in my library.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puma237 View Post
    you are not offering as proof that the usa was founded on Christianity, a book written by a Christian zealot.......are you?

    puma. Not too obvious how much you seem to hate everything about this nation. When is your next Athiest meeting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    puma. Not too obvious how much you seem to hate everything about this nation. When is your next Athiest meeting?
    i ask one simple question, and from it you deduce that i am an atheist who hates everything about the usa.

    other than the fact that you are woefully wrong on both counts, that was just freaking brilliant Sherlock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puma237 View Post
    i ask one simple question, and from it you deduce that i am an atheist who hates everything about the usa.

    other than the fact that you are woefully wrong on both counts, that was just freaking brilliant Sherlock.

    Okay. Then you won't mind explaining your need to use the Christian Zealot line?
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