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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    make up your mind----are the dems going to own up to being part of plan A or not ? If they will indeed own up to being a part of plan A, they sure have managed to try to dissuade everyone of it. How about Plan B (the surge) ? Did they support that or not ? Are they going to give it a chance or do they intend to start sabotaging it half-way through ?

    As far as I can tell the opponents to the WOT actually have no plan at all other than to insist we have nothing to worry about.
    They are not opponents of the WOT, they are opponents of being in the middle of a no ending, costly in both lives and money, civil war in Iraq that will only be subdued with diplomacy, like FAIR oil contracts that benefit all three sectors of their country....(of which China has offered Iraq a better deal)

    so far, this is the MAIN ''hold up'' that is causing the havoc and keeping us there from what i've been hearing and reading on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    OMG!!!!!!! You trust your lives and freedoms to anyone that has NO PLAN "B"!!!!!!!!???????
    Compared you liberals like you who dont even have a plan A? Yeah. Id trust my lives and freedoms to someome who has a plan over someone who doesnt anyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Compared you liberals like you who dont even have a plan A? Yeah. Id trust my lives and freedoms to someome who has a plan over someone who doesnt anyday.
    Bush's Plan A was great wasn't it? Yep, get after bin Laden in, where was it again? Oh yes, Afghanistan. Pity he didn't stick with it. Nope, he just had to go to Plan Let's Screw This Whole Thing Up and attack Iraq.
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    The first thing to go when you meet the enemy is the battle plan. All engagements of any size have to have a free flowing plan that can be adjusted as need be, from moment to moment and day to day.

    The most classic example is chess. It's possible to plan ahead a few moves but your opponent may make that plan useless in one move.You can't plan twenty moves ahead with expectations of making those moves.

    Pulling all your pieces out is not a plan. It just means you lose.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Are you applying United Staes military objectives to a game that is commonly played on the streets and in the houses of American game players?


    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    The first thing to go when you meet the enemy is the battle plan. All engagements of any size have to have a free flowing plan that can be adjusted as need be, from moment to moment and day to day.

    The most classic example is chess. It's possible to plan ahead a few moves but your opponent may make that plan useless in one move.You can't plan twenty moves ahead with expectations of making those moves.

    Pulling all your pieces out is not a plan. It just means you lose.
    No one has asked for the pieces, guffer. This game is much more complicated than you can imagine!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Are you applying United Staes military objectives to a game that is commonly played on the streets and in the houses of American game players?




    No one has asked for the pieces, guffer. This game is much more complicated than you can imagine!!!!!!!!!!
    Apparently it's SO complicated that Democrats have no plan at all other than to resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Apparently it's SO complicated that Democrats have no plan at all other than to resign.
    And Bush's plan? Remember, the bloke that started it? HIs plan is to wait until he leaves and then let a real adult take over and fix his monumental fuckup. He suffers from arrested development. What the hell is he going to do when his folks kick the bucket and can't pickup after him?

    You have a pathetic president yet he isn't short of apologists. You sorry bastards, When are you going to wake up to what you've done?
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    Personally, I haven't seen many resignations on the part of Democrats lately but the list of con's is extensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Apparently it's SO complicated that Democrats have no plan at all other than to resign.
    Is that complicated enough for you? LOL!!!!! Way beyond your comprehension, isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    And Bush's plan? Remember, the bloke that started it? HIs plan is to wait until he leaves and then let a real adult take over and fix his monumental fuckup. He suffers from arrested development. What the hell is he going to do when his folks kick the bucket and can't pickup after him?

    You have a pathetic president yet he isn't short of apologists. You sorry bastards, When are you going to wake up to what you've done?
    What is it that you don't understand about providing a better plan. There may be people who who happily dump the "Bush plan" when presented with something better. It aint about Bush---it's about coming up with a viable strategy other than surrendering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    What is it that you don't understand about providing a better plan. There may be people who who happily dump the "Bush plan" when presented with something better. It aint about Bush---it's about coming up with a viable strategy other than surrendering.
    Do you have the will to impeach him and Cheney?

    If not then don't bullshit to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Personally, I haven't seen many resignations on the part of Democrats lately but the list of con's is extensive.



    Is that complicated enough for you? LOL!!!!! Way beyond your comprehension, isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    all cons---that's the problem------is consstructive a plan beyond YOUR comprehension? Apparently it is because I haven't heard anyone offer an alternative that doesn't involve surrender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Do you have the will to impeach him and Cheney?

    If not then don't bullshit to me.
    If they were to be impeached, we would still need a plan. Your bullshitting yourself if you can't understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    all cons---that's the problem------is consstructive a plan beyond YOUR comprehension? Apparently it is because I haven't heard anyone offer an alternative that doesn't involve surrender.
    Well you have the Blockhead in Chief that wants to continue it . For crying out loud don't you realise the bloke hasn't got a frigging clue? Don't you realise he has his military chiefs shitting themselves because they can't tell the Blockhead in Chief it's fucked? The plan should be how to get out with minimal damage but no, thst's not acceptable to the Blockhead in Chief.

    Jeez. You people, You piss people's lives up against the wall because everyone is too pussy to tell the Blockhead in Chief it's all over.

    Gutless bastards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Well you have the Blockhead in Chief that wants to continue it . For crying out loud don't you realise the bloke hasn't got a frigging clue? Don't you realise he has his military chiefs shitting themselves because they can't tell the Blockhead in Chief it's fucked? The plan should be how to get out with minimal damage but no, thst's not acceptable to the Blockhead in Chief.

    Jeez. You people, You piss people's lives up against the wall because everyone is too pussy to tell the Blockhead in Chief it's all over.

    Gutless bastards.
    "Getting out with minimal damage" is a plan ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Well you have the Blockhead in Chief that wants to continue it . For crying out loud don't you realise the bloke hasn't got a frigging clue? Don't you realise he has his military chiefs shitting themselves because they can't tell the Blockhead in Chief it's fucked? The plan should be how to get out with minimal damage but no, thst's not acceptable to the Blockhead in Chief.

    Jeez. You people, You piss people's lives up against the wall because everyone is too pussy to tell the Blockhead in Chief it's all over.

    Gutless bastards.
    What's gutless is siding with the enemy, blaming the WOT on a sitting president, all in the comfort of your keyboard under an assumed name.

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