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    Default French lawmakers say Crimea’s return to Russia legitimate

    French lawmakers say Crimea’s return to Russia legitimate

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    July 24, 15:18 UTC+3 SEVASTOPOL
    Time is needed to overcome the stereotype impressions of the recent events, Thierry Mariani said Material has 1 page



    French parliamentary delegation head Thierry Mariani

    © TASS/Aleksei Pavlishak

    SEVASTOPOL, July 24. /TASS/. Crimea’s return to Russia is legitimate, a delegation of French lawmakers said on Friday after a two-day visit to the Black Sea peninsula.
    "After what we have heard, we understood that Crimea’s return to Russia is legitimate. Time is needed to overcome the stereotype impressions of the recent events [Crimea’s return to Russia] but I promise that we’ll bring the real situation in Crimea to the notice of everyone. When two bells ring, people start thinking. The crisis of the agricultural sector has already paved the way for this process," French parliamentary delegation head Thierry Mariani said after visiting the Panorama of the Defense of Sevastopol in 1854-1855.
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    Member of the French National Assembly Jacques Miyar said confrontation between Russia and France had no sense in the context of both countries’ common history.
    "The current situation of confrontation has no sense and does not fit into the common history of Russia and France. It is necessary to start cooperation and build a world of solidarity as quickly as possible. The culture that unites us will be an alternative to conflicts," Miyar said.
    "We have visited the Panorama, which was painted by the French artist [Francis Rubo] who considered himself as Russian," the lawmaker said.
    The Crimean authorities held a referendum on March 16, 2014 on local residents’ attitude to Crimea’s reunification with Russia. With a record turnout of over 80%, 96.7% of Crimean residents and 95.6% of electors living in the Crimean port city of Sevastopol voted for the Black Sea peninsula’s reintegration into Russia.
    The treaty on integrating the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol into Russia was approved by both houses of the Russian parliament, after which President Vladimir Putin signed a federal law on incorporating two new constituent entities into the Russian Federation.
    Ukraine, the United States and the European Union have refused to recognize Crimea as part of Russia, despite the referendum’s convincing results.
    Crimea used to be part of Russia from 1784 until 1954 when Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev handed it over to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in a voluntaristic act. Crimea remained part of independent Ukraine after the USSR collapsed in 1991.

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    My question is: How does this affect quality of life in Crimea? Is there more corruption or less corruption? Is there more prosperity or less prosperity? Is there more freedom or is there less freedom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    My question is: How does this affect quality of life in Crimea? Is there more corruption or less corruption? Is there more prosperity or less prosperity? Is there more freedom or is there less freedom?
    I'll quote Otto Von Bismark.

    “Do not expect that once taken advantage of Russia’s weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come – they will not rely on the Jesuit agreement you signed, that supposedly justify your actions. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russians you should use fair play or no play. ”
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    In fairness, I don't think anyone has cared what the French think since 1915... that's a century worth of irrelevance.

    We're still wondering who will take them over next - my money is on the muzzies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    In fairness, I don't think anyone has cared what the French think since 1915... that's a century worth of irrelevance.
    We're still wondering who will take them over next - my money is on the muzzies.
    May be you are right. May be not. But... these were French who ruined Bretton Woods system, having sent to the USA a vessel full of paper-dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    May be you are right. May be not. But... these were French who ruined Bretton Woods system, having sent to the USA a vessel full of paper-dollars.
    I think that was America in 1971 because the outflow of gold to other countries and our dollar was based on gold... the Cold War was a very expensive affair and we were paying the lion's share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I think that was America in 1971 because the outflow of gold to other countries and our dollar was based on gold... the Cold War was a very expensive affair and we were paying the lion's share.
    Without enjoying the benefits of this, covering all the expenses???
    Let me not believe in the USA disinterestedness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    May be you are right. May be not. But... these were French who ruined Bretton Woods system, having sent to the USA a vessel full of paper-dollars.
    They didn't ruin it, they just took advantage.

    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I think that was America in 1971 because the outflow of gold to other countries and our dollar was based on gold... the Cold War was a very expensive affair and we were paying the lion's share.
    Gold was "leaving" because the Fed created too many dollars thus making gold more attractive in comparison.

    With a dollar standard, the price levels of the other countries in the Bretton Woods system had to move in line with the price level in the United States. Given the overall expansionary and inflationary monetary policy in the United States that started in 1964, foreign countries had to inflate along with the United States. Apart from France, the United States successfully pressured other countries not to present dollars to the US Treasury for payment in gold. Other countries then held on to the dollars they accumulated from US payments deficits. When presented to the central banks of those countries for their own currency, those dollars pushed up their bank reserves and money stock. Inflation in these countries then increased along with US inflation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    I'll quote Otto Von Bismark.

    “Do not expect that once taken advantage of Russia’s weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come – they will not rely on the Jesuit agreement you signed, that supposedly justify your actions. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russians you should use fair play or no play. ”
    If we're going to quote heads of state:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    If we're going to quote heads of state...
    You must be joking.
    Who is Reagan and who is Otto von Bismark!?
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