Sandra Bland

[Perianne]

(I looked to see if this has been mentioned anywhere else, but could only find one mention of it by Indago in the cop-hating thread.)



Sandra Bland, a foul-mouthed black woman, was arrested on July 10 by police after what could have been a simple traffic warning. She committed suicide three days later in her jail cell. She was there because no one cared enough about her to bail her out ($500).

Your thoughts?

Apparently, Ms. Bland was trying to put together $500 for a bond payment and none of her family, including her sister Sharon, were willing to assist.


Additionally, NBC in Chicago has found that Ms. Bland had a rather extensive history with driving violations including DUI’s and failure to pay fines associated with at least 10 infractions.


NBC5 Investigates has found that – at the time of her death last Friday — she still owed a total of $7,579.00 in court fines resulting from five traffic stops in various Chicago suburbs (including a DUI), and she had been cited several times for her failure to pay those fines.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/07/23/sandra-bland-had-long-history-of-drivinglegal-infractions-family-who-refused-to-assist-with-bail-now-refusing-to-accept-suicide/

[Perianne]

The confrontation with the hateful woman starts at about 9:00.

[Noir]

Hateful woman? I guess you'd be polite enough to not to swear after being needlessly pulled out of your car.

[Voted4Reagan]

Hateful woman? I guess you'd be polite enough to not to swear after being needlessly pulled out of your car.

The officer asked her to extinguish her Cigarette. She became argumentative. She refused a lawful order to exit the vehicle at least 6 or 8 times.

The officer drew a NON-LETHAL Device to make her comply.

She finally exited the vehicle.

She Fought the cop, Kicking and trying to elbow him. She did kick him in the leg. A Felony.

Refusal to obey a Lawful Order and Felony assault on a Public Servant.

Alternative solution?

Ms Bland puts out her cigarette, speaks calmly and politely to the officer, signs the warning and goes on her way...

No... she chose to argue and to fight.

And her "Bereaved Family" all refused to pay her minuscule bail of just $500. Leaving her in Jail.

That family is just seeking a pay day. They could care less about Sandra Bland.

[darin]

The officer asked her to extinguish her Cigarette. She became argumentative. She refused a lawful order to exit the vehicle at least 6 or 8 times.

Except being arumentative isn't a reason to affect a arrest or detainment. He was wrong to expect her to comply with his request.

The officer drew a NON-LETHAL Device to make her comply.

She finally exited the vehicle.

She Fought the cop, Kicking and trying to elbow him. She did kick him in the leg. A Felony.

Not in defense of a reasonable belief the arrest or detainment was illegal.

Refusal to obey a Lawful Order and Felony assault on a Public Servant.

Alternative solution?

Ms Bland puts out her cigarette, speaks calmly and politely to the officer, signs the warning and goes on her way...

No... she chose to argue and to fight.

And her "Bereaved Family" all refused to pay her minuscule bail of just $500. Leaving her in Jail.

That family is just seeking a pay day. They could NOT care less about Sandra Bland.

No - the officer lost it when he wasn't ass-kissed by the motorist for what was a bullshit stop. The cop escallated this thing.

She killed herself, but the cop instigated the sequence of events. And yes, I believe her family will use this as a 'winning lottery ticket'. And that part's shameful; as or more shameful than the Cop's actions.

[Voted4Reagan]

Except being arumentative isn't a reason to affect a arrest or detainment. He was wrong to expect her to comply with his request.



Not in defense of a reasonable belief the arrest or detainment was illegal.



No - the officer lost it when he wasn't ass-kissed by the motorist for what was a bullshit stop. The cop escallated this thing.

She killed herself, but the cop instigated the sequence of events. And yes, I believe her family will use this as a 'winning lottery ticket'. And that part's shameful; as or more shameful than the Cop's actions.

I quote the Texas Penal Code:


Sec. 542.501. OBEDIENCE REQUIRED TO POLICE OFFICERS AND TO SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS. A person may not wilfully fail or refuse to comply with a lawful order or direction of:
(1) a police officer; or
(2) a school crossing guard who:
(A) is performing crossing guard duties in a school crosswalk to stop and yield to a pedestrian; or
(B) has been trained under Section 600.004 and is directing traffic in a school crossing zone.


The officer in question issued a lawful order to extinguish her cigarette while she signed the warning ticket. She became argumentative, argued with the officer, the motorist escalated the situation and after repeated requests to comply asked her to step out of the vehicle... he repeated the request several times. He finally drew his non lethal sidearm and ordered her to step out of the vehicle.

The woman violated the LAW of the state of Texas. Kicking the Officer is a FELONY.

Texas Law states under RESISTING ARREST:

TEX PE. CODE ANN. § 38.03 : Texas Statutes - Section 38.03: RESISTING ARREST, SEARCH, OR TRANSPORTATION


(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally prevents or obstructs a person he knows is a peace officer or a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction from effecting an arrest, search, or transportation of the actor or another by using force against the peace officer or another.


(b) It is no defense to prosecution under this section that the arrest or search was unlawful.


(c) Except as provided in Subsection (d), an offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.


(d) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree if the actor uses a deadly weapon to resist the arrest or search.




TEX PE. CODE ANN. § 22.02 AGGRAVATED ASSAULT


(a) A person commits an offense if the person commits assault as defined in Sec. 22.01 and the person:
(1) causes serious bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse; or
(2) uses or exhibits a deadly weapon during the commission of the assault.
(b) An offense under this section is a felony of the second degree, except that the offense is a felony of the first degree if:

(B) against a person the actor knows is a public servant while the public servant is

lawfully discharging an official duty, or in retaliation or on account of an exercise of

official power or performance of an official duty as a public servant;


Sorry DMP... The woman broke a slew of Laws.


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[Voted4Reagan]

Except being arumentative isn't a reason to affect a arrest or detainment. He was wrong to expect her to comply with his request.

As a legally appointed public servant if he requests you to do something... you do it. You don't act belligerent and argumentative thus escalating the situation. If you want to argue the offense... DO IT IN COURT

Not in defense of a reasonable belief the arrest or detainment was illegal.

It is not up to the person being given instructions to decide what is and isn't reasonable.

No - the officer lost it when he wasn't ass-kissed by the motorist for what was a bullshit stop. The cop escallated this thing.

Once again... when an officer tells you to do something, you do it. Had she not been argumentative and belligerent, Put out the cigarette, Listened to the officer explain the warning to her and just complied with his request... she would have been on her way and all would have been okay in her world. She verbally confronted him, refused a dozen requests he made to put out the cigarette and get out of the car and finally exited the vehicle when threatened with non-lethal force. The more you argue with an officer the more likely he is to become suspicious that you are doing something.

She killed herself, but the cop instigated the sequence of events.

No.. she instigated it by refusing a Lawful order on a dozen occasions and then assaulting the officer and resisting arrest. She was the architect of her own problems.

And yes, I believe her family will use this as a 'winning lottery ticket'.And that part's shameful;

We agree on this point

as or more shameful than the Cop's actions.

NO.. The cop was polite and was just going to issue a warning. He did his job. Nothing shameful about it. We get it DMP... you dont think cops have a right to tell you what to do.

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[Noir]

The officer asked her to extinguish her Cigarette. She became argumentative. She refused a lawful order to exit the vehicle at least 6 or 8 times.

The officer drew a NON-LETHAL Device to make her comply.

She finally exited the vehicle.

She Fought the cop, Kicking and trying to elbow him. She did kick him in the leg. A Felony.

Refusal to obey a Lawful Order and Felony assault on a Public Servant.

Alternative solution?

Ms Bland puts out her cigarette, speaks calmly and politely to the officer, signs the warning and goes on her way...

No... she chose to argue and to fight.

And her "Bereaved Family" all refused to pay her minuscule bail of just $500. Leaving her in Jail.

That family is just seeking a pay day. They could care less about Sandra Bland.

even the likes of Fox News and Donald Trump are saying the policeman was out of line.
If you watch the video and think the policeman acted correctly then IDK what kind of police force you want in your country, but I sure as hell don't want it.

[Rat]

This one of situations where cop may technically be within law but could handle situation better. When see stuff like this I ask myself if I could have handled different and got better result. I pretty sure I could got woman put out cigarette without what happened. I probably would no ask her to put out anyway but if did could do so without huge fight. That seems what started incident.

Cops good for most part but what I see cause alot unecessary incidents is how they speak to people they pull over and approach. Some have powertrip mentality and talk down to them in demeaning way. That may be within law but start incident off in bad way. When I got out Army I was in law enforcement 13 years. I see many incidents that could ended peacefully if cop handled different. I had different attitude when I was patrolman from most others. I viewed everyone as equals of mine. I no act like I better than them. Many times they act like pendejo but just got to be cool and not jump to extreme emotion. Cops supposed to defuse situation not make worse. I always just be chilled with everyone. Because that almost all my stops ended good and without bad incident. Sometimes you no prevent situation going south but some cops can do much better job at defusing explosive situation.

[indago]

She Fought the cop, Kicking and trying to elbow him. She did kick him in the leg. A Felony.

Point out in the video where "She did kick him in the leg".

[tailfins]

Hateful woman? I guess you'd be polite enough to not to swear after being needlessly pulled out of your car.

You be polite if you want to cash in after the fact. Always ask: How would this look to a civil jury?

[indago]

(I looked to see if this has been mentioned anywhere else, but could only find one mention of it by Indago in the cop-hating thread.)

Which would be HERE

"cop-hating thread"???

That's Protect and Serve! What's "cop-hating thread" about that?

[darin]

Two thoughts -

First - That cop is a crappy cop. I hope he's fired. She did nothing wrong - nothing warranting arrest or even a traffic stop.

Secondly - I suspect she harmed herself in efforts to bring more anti-cop violence.

[indago]

Sandra Bland, a foul-mouthed black woman, was arrested on July 10 by police after what could have been a simple traffic warning. She committed suicide three days later in her jail cell. She was there because no one cared enough about her to bail her out ($500).

The reason Sandra Bland was still in jail three days after being arrested was that she hadn’t posted the $5,000 bond that had been set for her by a Waller County, Texas judge. Posting that bond would have required Bland to come up with $500—10 percent of the full sum—in exchange for her freedom. According to a lawyer for the Bland family, they were working on securing the necessary funds when Bland was found dead in her cell on the morning of July 13.

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