A military question.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Here is the question which involve a very big -IF-..

What if in the future China , Russia and a united middle-east under an Nuked up Iran led Caliphate faced off our military, could we defeat that united threesome in conventional warfare?
I can see the pact possibly being made between two non-christian nations China and Russia, overtures are already being made. Then if Iran nukes up it would create the muslim Caliphate with its nation the Supreme leader and if nuked up it would be immunized from our launching nukes to gain victory.
The question involves only the unified three going against us in a conventional war..
And if a muslim Europe were to remain neutral , could we win in conventional warfare?
Do not think this a far fetched possibility as both China and Russia now heavily cultivate the M.E for political, economic and strategic reasons..-Tyr

[NightTrain]

Well, you have to consider Europe and NATO... odds are they'd be with us in a conflict like that.

A billion screaming Chinese storming the line is a sobering thought, and they probably have enough to arm them now as well.

Technologically speaking, they're both far behind us in that department, but an alliance like that has an awful lot of cannon fodder.

[Voted4Reagan]

Wont happen...

1. China owns huge chunks of our Debt.... they need to keep us around

2. Russia talks a lot... but is under equipped to handle a massive conventional war. NUKES we have seen will never be launched by a UNSC Permanent Member. Remember M.A.D.??

3. The Iran led Caliphate?? Not even a chance... too many moderate Arab countries. Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Egypt will never join it. Without the biggest members of the Arab League (Egypt) and Turkey allied in NATO.... Not happening.

[Gunny]

Here is the question which involve a very big -IF-..

What if in the future China , Russia and a united middle-east under an Nuked up Iran led Caliphate faced off our military, could we defeat that united threesome in conventional warfare?
I can see the pact possibly being made between two non-christian nations China and Russia, overtures are already being made. Then if Iran nukes up it would create the muslim Caliphate with its nation the Supreme leader and if nuked up it would be immunized from our launching nukes to gain victory.
The question involves only the unified three going against us in a conventional war..
And if a muslim Europe were to remain neutral , could we win in conventional warfare?
Do not think this a far fetched possibility as both China and Russia now heavily cultivate the M.E for political, economic and strategic reasons..-Tyr

China and Russia have always had an uneasy sort of alliance. They're too suspicious of each other to be actual partners. Same with Iran. Iran doesn't trust anyone. Russia's making money off Iran. That's about as far as that alliance goes.

They'd turn on each other before they every got anything done.

[indago]

A war, anymore, is not just a military thing, it involves all the people of the countries involved. Those people should be taught that a war will involved the destruction of their countries and their lives. They should be queried as to their thoughts on this, and if they want to risk it all.




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[Gunny]

A war, anymore, is not just a military thing, it involves all the people of the countries involved. Those people should be taught that a war will involved the destruction of their countries and their lives. They should be queried as to their thoughts on this, and if they want to risk it all.




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Depends on your point of view. When you're involved at the personal level you can take your politics and shove them up your ass.

[Max R.]

Here is the question which involve a very big -IF-..

What if in the future China , Russia and a united middle-east under an Nuked up Iran led Caliphate faced off our military, could we defeat that united threesome in conventional warfare?
I can see the pact possibly being made between two non-christian nations China and Russia, overtures are already being made. Then if Iran nukes up it would create the muslim Caliphate with its nation the Supreme leader and if nuked up it would be immunized from our launching nukes to gain victory.
The question involves only the unified three going against us in a conventional war..
And if a muslim Europe were to remain neutral , could we win in conventional warfare?
Do not think this a far fetched possibility as both China and Russia now heavily cultivate the M.E for political, economic and strategic reasons..-Tyr

With a neutral Europe, they could take all that remains non-Europe such as the ME (although Israel might go nuclear with nothing to lose), North Africa, the rest of Africa, SW Asia (given India & Pakistan don't go nuclear as a last line of defense.) For us in the Americas, we have a pretty big frickin' moat to protect us from land invasion. The "Red Dawn" scenario couldn't supply enough troops to invade the US without an extremely bloody fight.

All in all, while such a scenario would see the collapse of the global economy, I think it would end in stalemate.

[Balu]

Let ME say a word. You ARE NOT fighters with YOUR badges in Vietnam - "Help the pilot and you'll get money". Germans ARE figters, you - NONE. Question for US, Russians, is OVER! As fighter You ALL are fluid SHIT! You NEVER WON.
Robert, I'm sorry.

[Voted4Reagan]

Let ME say a word. You ARE NOT fighters with YOUR badges in Vietnam - "Help the pilot and you'll get money". Germans ARE figters, you - NONE. Question for US, Russians, is OVER! As fighter You ALL are fluid SHIT! You NEVER WON.
Robert, I'm sorry.

Last war I saw the Russians fight they got their asses kicked by The Afghani Mujahadeen back in the 70's and 80's

Before that you didn't fight anything since WWII.

[Gunny]

Let ME say a word. You ARE NOT fighters with YOUR badges in Vietnam - "Help the pilot and you'll get money". Germans ARE figters, you - NONE. Question for US, Russians, is OVER! As fighter You ALL are fluid SHIT! You NEVER WON.
Robert, I'm sorry.

How does that work with your sorry-ass invasion of Afghanistan?

[red state]

Yeah...not to mention that OUR sorry @$$ leaders were politically striving for correctness while the USSR and China never had to or did care for public opinion (or compassion for those whom we were kicking @$$).

You're exactly what I thought you were BALU (full of BULL$#!T indoctrinated ignorance). This may be my first response to you....probably the last.

[Max R.]

Let ME say a word. You ARE NOT fighters with YOUR badges in Vietnam - "Help the pilot and you'll get money". Germans ARE figters, you - NONE. Question for US, Russians, is OVER! As fighter You ALL are fluid SHIT! You NEVER WON.
Robert, I'm sorry.

Been drinking some bad vodka, Balu?

BTW, "blood chits" work.

[red state]

How does that work with your sorry-ass invasion of Afghanistan?

Exactly! From what I understand of history and friends throughout the world (that I can use as an actual source of TRUTH, FACT & REAL history), the USA was a welcomed site (whether in the Philippines, South Vietnam or recent others whom we HAVE liberated from tyrannical regimes LIKE the USSR, and their commie filth ). Some of those we've LITERALLY save have chosen to forget the good we've done and some have remembered it an honored our BEST (the WORLD's BEST, mind you).......then there are others who deliberately hurt us (as with the piece of garbage from that little piece of $#!T country we saved from Saddam. I should remind Balu that, like today, our military have always had one arm tied behind their backs (except for a few occassions) so if one-armed soldiers have kicked Balu's @$$ and everyone else around the world.....what does that make Balu and his 3rd world bread line country russia?

russia has never been a welcomed site that I can recall but have always been tyrannical. Even in WWII, their murderous bastard of a leader was not in it for the GOOD of man as our soldiers were......Heck, he murdered more of his own than Hitler ever could or would have.

[red state]

Here is the question which involve a very big -IF-..

What if in the future China , Russia and a united middle-east under an Nuked up Iran led Caliphate faced off our military, could we defeat that united threesome in conventional warfare?
I can see the pact possibly being made between two non-christian nations China and Russia, overtures are already being made. Then if Iran nukes up it would create the muslim Caliphate with its nation the Supreme leader and if nuked up it would be immunized from our launching nukes to gain victory.
The question involves only the unified three going against us in a conventional war..
And if a muslim Europe were to remain neutral , could we win in conventional warfare?
Do not think this a far fetched possibility as both China and Russia now heavily cultivate the M.E for political, economic and strategic reasons..-Tyr

Biblically speaking......one day all those from the East will direct their attention on Israel but that is going to end quite abruptly with One speaking a word or words of victory. I truly believe this EAST mentioned is Russia, China, Korea, 'Persia' and, of course, all of the muSLUM nations.

As for the HERE & NOW....V4R and a few others have a very good points (and I agree). However, I also believe and see how all of this will and can change very easily.

[namvet]

I don't know how you guys can tolerate that Russian dick suckin' faggot. fucker's a poser anyway.