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    Quote Originally Posted by Max R. View Post
    Since both wings were level just before the wing drop/wing lift (depending on your perspective) it doesn't make sense for one wing to stall and the other not to do so unless there was an asymmetrical malfunction of the flaps and/or slats.

    Depending on the cause of the problem, dragging a wingtip is mostly a maintenance repair issue. The jet is so massive, that dragging an aluminum and composite wingtip isn't going to stop it or significantly change its direction. The tip will just shear off.

    Still, the cause of the "bobble" is interesting. It could be pilot error, but I think something else was going on. Either an odd wind gust or a mechanical issue.
    Yeah, I assumed it was a gust of wind that hit the plane as he bounced combined with a low airspeed.

    Also, you can see the nose pitch up slightly, maybe overcorrections on his part when he realized his descent was too great?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Yeah, I assumed it was a gust of wind that hit the plane as he bounced combined with a low airspeed.

    Also, you can see the nose pitch up slightly, maybe overcorrections on his part when he realized his descent was too great?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max R. View Post
    Since both wings were level just before the wing drop/wing lift (depending on your perspective) it doesn't make sense for one wing to stall and the other not to do so unless there was an asymmetrical malfunction of the flaps and/or slats.

    Depending on the cause of the problem, dragging a wingtip is mostly a maintenance repair issue. The jet is so massive, that dragging an aluminum and composite wingtip isn't going to stop it or significantly change its direction. The tip will just shear off.

    Still, the cause of the "bobble" is interesting. It could be pilot error, but I think something else was going on. Either an odd wind gust or a mechanical issue.
    I don't think he was level when first trying to land. The wheels hit at different times and it looks like he bounced off the landing gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Yeah, I assumed it was a gust of wind that hit the plane as he bounced combined with a low airspeed.

    Also, you can see the nose pitch up slightly, maybe overcorrections on his part when he realized his descent was too great?
    It wouldn't be the first time a pilot overcorrected when surprised. A good possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't think he was level when first trying to land. The wheels hit at different times and it looks like he bounced off the landing gear.
    He was off a bit, but "wing down, top rudder" landings off result in one wheel touching first. It's what happened afterwards that resulted in an even bigger "bobble" that is odd.

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