Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
History clearly points out that had Hitler not attacked the Russians we would not have won that war..
First those forces/airpower etc. would have knocked Britain out and it was nip and tuck for us with Britain in the game as it was.
Second, the resources sank into fighting in Russia were a massive drain on Germany.
Hitler lost the war once he committed to invade and conquer Russia.
And even after that the germans almost won..
Had Hitler ordered the Luftwaffe to strike airfields and military only in Britain , instead of bombing civilians in cities there Britain was lost.
Two huge mistakes and the bastard made both of them because he thought he was a military genius.
The generals that were adamantly against invading Russia Hitler had executed or else drummed out of the german military.
Dividing forces and adding multiple fronts has sank many an invading force as history so clearly shows.
Russia was savaged all to hell by the germans, Leningrad and Stalingrad..

The German siege of Leningrad lasted 900 days from September, 1941 to January, 1944. During that time 800,000 people, nearly a third of the population died.

Stalingrad-- Only at the end did it become apparent the scale of destruction and death that had occurred at Stalingrad, estimates vary but the death toll is generally accepted to be somewhere between one and two million, though not universal it is generally accepted to be the single largest death toll in any battle in mankind’s history.
LOL. I was actually looking for @Kathianne 's War of 1812 thread. It's known as "forgotten war" here. As far as Stalin goes, he was complicit in Germany's crap until he got back stabbed by Hitler. He originally was planning on dividing Europe with Hitler. Hitler was like Obama -- his country's own worst enemy. His stupidity and military ineptness led to Germany's defeat.