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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    Or perhaps they're just telling it like it is.

    Try looking at IAVA.org (also called optruth.org)...
    It looks that others don't see the same as you either? That smilie doesn't really apply here, but it's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    Or perhaps they're just telling it like it is.

    Try looking at IAVA.org (also called optruth.org)...
    Or perhaps they have an agenda. I have NEVER read a liberal forum where they weren't on a Bush bashing binge. And out to make the administration look bad in anywaay posible. And in all the years I have been around I have never seen such a venomus attack on a sitting president in the end of his term. He's in the final two years and they are attacking him like he's running for office. This is why I can't take anything said by the dems seriously. They use iraq as a political football instead of supporting the troops and concentrating on the war with islamists.

    I have plenty of things I don't like about Bush, but they are overriden by the poison spit out by the dems.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    They use iraq as a political football instead of supporting the troops and concentrating on the war with islamists.

    .

    You think bush is serious about the war with the islamists? The Bushes have been in bed with the Bin Ladens for at least two generations now.

    I wonder if Bush knows our border is wide open. Any president serious about an external threat would SURELY close the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    You think bush is serious about the war with the islamists? The Bushes have been in bed with the Bin Ladens for at least two generations now.

    I wonder if Bush knows our border is wide open. Any president serious about an external threat would SURELY close the border.


    Spent much time over the past year reading up on all the good conspiracy stuff did ya? Hey, did ya know the Bush also coordinated the attack of 911 as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    It looks that others don't see the same as you either? That smilie doesn't really apply here, but it's cool.

    But they didn't misread the article. They just disagree with its premise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil View Post


    Spent much time over the past year reading up on all the good conspiracy stuff did ya? Hey, did ya know the Bush also coordinated the attack of 911 as well?
    Let's just debate policy. Border: Important or not? Closed or open? Economic issue or security issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    But they didn't misread the article. They just disagree with its premise.
    I didn't misread, I quoted from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Let's just debate policy. Border: Important or not? Closed or open? Economic issue or security issue?
    He won't answer my questions and wants to change the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    He won't answer my questions and wants to change the topic.
    Oh yes. The surge. Legitimate error. I was thinking of something else. The surge: Throwing our boys into a meat grinder vainly trying to stop others from killing each other is a good idea ? Yes or no?

    ANd actually. I gave you that inside first hand account you were horny about.
    Last edited by TheSage; 01-07-2007 at 05:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    Oh yes. The surge. Legitimate error. I was thinking of something else. The surge: Throwing our boys into a meat grinder vainly trying to stop others from killing each other is a good idea ? Yes or no?

    ANd actually. I gave you that inside first hand account you were horny about.
    You did not. your threw out a lot of questions and rhetoric and NEVER answered my questions.

    Answering questions with questions doesn't work with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    You did not. your threw out a lot of questions and rhetoric and NEVER answered my questions.

    Answering questions with questions doesn't work with me.
    You wanted an inside view? I gave a link to Benjamin Freedmans' testimony

    Jew read it yet?
    Last edited by TheSage; 01-07-2007 at 06:06 PM.

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    That's your proof? That's your inside source?

    That has about as much authenticity as the de Vinci code. Great creative writing but nothing substantial. You live in a real fantasy world if that's the only basis you put your beliefs on.

    I want real up today proof. Not some silly sect writing. You spout about what all is being planned and operations going on, then there should be an insider passing that information on.

    Seems to me more like a continue the story type of thing, where someone starts a story and multiple people add to it. Jim might want to make a thread of that idea.

    Your still adolph with the tinhat.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    That's your proof? That's your inside source?

    That has about as much authenticity as the de Vinci code. Great creative writing but nothing substantial. You live in a real fantasy world if that's the only basis you put your beliefs on.

    I want real up today proof. Not some silly sect writing. You spout about what all is being planned and operations going on, then there should be an insider passing that information on.

    Seems to me more like a continue the story type of thing, where someone starts a story and multiple people add to it. Jim might want to make a thread of that idea.

    Your still adolph with the tinhat.

    real up today proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    Its a definate fact his opinion would not vary. he's out to bash Bush as usual.

    The equipment the troops had was sufficiant for the job as it was at the begining. They upgraded the equipment as things changed, like in every situation. The enemy changes tactics, we change tactics. That's how a war is fought.

    A battle plan never survives the first clash with the enemy.
    Tactical rule of thumb .... the plan goes to shit with the first shot.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    But those pushing capitalism into this nation are only interested in subjugating it's people to the existing megacorporations. They believe in monopoly capitalism, and subjugating any and all human value to the imputed value of human life as it is factored into the bottom line.
    I disagree. Capitalism in this country is driven solely by greed.

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