Pastor Is Asked “Is Abortion Murder?”, His Response Gave Me Chills

[Drummond]

Noir I look up Vegan and it says:



Now that sounds to me like you value a animals life, but yet it's OK to kill a baby ? Doesn't make sense at all to me, but then again most anything you liberal do don't make any sense to many, I mean to be a liberal you just have to disagree with anything that is right, sick bunch of punks. I have to be honest with you Noir, although I think you are a bright young man I would love to meet you in person, any man that says it's OK to kill babies but wont eat meat because he should live without exploiting animals, well if we met lets just say it wouldn't be a happy reunion. Hell they are selling dead babies parts, tell me about exploiting. So much smarts , but you use them to try and out smart everyone else and really you are just out smarting yourself.

I felt terrible when Abbey posted about people making fun when talking of Vegan and/or vegetarians, but you are a fake a fraud, it's wrong to hurt a animal but hell kill babies, Abbey if you read this I apologize but from here on out when this twerp post about being a vegan I am going to make major fun of it, because he is a liar and a fraud, I hope those of you that are for real will forgive me, my cracks aren't aimed at all, just those like Noir, yea basically liberals.

I know what it's like to have to deal with fraudulent Lefties, Jeff. I fully sympathise ! Good luck to you.

[tailfins]

I'm surprised this discussion is even happening. One has to be morally tone deaf to not realize that abortion is murder. The hard truth is that those who kill abortionists are saving lives. Remind me to contribute to the legal defense fund of the next person that kills an abortionist.

[Drummond]

Do you prefer to live with your head in the sand? Is that better than choosing to think?

How is seeing through you, 'choosing to live with my head in the sand' .. ?

An example (one used before, and maybe I'll have to use it again):

You're 'The One True Thatcherite' ... YOU SAY.

If that's what you 'are', then you're saying that nobody ELSE is.

Why would any Thatcherite take it upon himself to denigrate all other Thatcherites out there, and then, just for the hell of it, totally unbidden ??

Answer -- no TRUE Thatcherite, WOULD. Therefore, logically, you cannot be what you claim to be. But what we DO know of you, is that you attack Conservatives at every opportunity.

Logically, you must be a fraud. From your behaviour, we also know you're a fraud. Now .. how is realising that, 'sticking my head in the sand' ?

[Drummond]

Question: IS ABORTION MURDER ?

Yes, ought society do so? But I have to disagree, I don't think the question does hinge on the life. I think it hinges on convenience and privacy. Ought society force inconvenience on its citizens? I don't think society wants inconvenience. We've spent decades removing consequences from the people either by granting benefits like Social Security and Medicare or removing burdens like an "unwanted" child. Even the SCOTUS decision was rooted in a right to privacy but IMO it ultimately is based on the fetus as property and not on the fetus of someone deserving of life. Sadly.

Also, your characterizations of moral/immoral are suspect. Even the non-religious should have a problem with carrying out an abortion a day before the child's due date. One doesn't have to be religious to believe in the natural right of life.

Asking if abortion is murder, IS hinging the matter on the LIFE !!

But, YOU seek to divorce abortion from consideration of a life being taken .. which fits perfectly with the Leftie mindset which requires people to legitimise it all by doing precisely THAT.

You reduce the taking of life down to whether or not a perception of mere INCONVENIENCE, and, PARTICULARLY, CONSIDERATION OF PROPERTY is involved in the decision taken !! Pure Leftie thinking at work !! It's how pro-abortionists want, and need, abortion to be seen. It's how the Leftie Movement prefers it to be seen.

FJ, as I've said, and as you'll increasingly prove, the more you reveal about your thinking, the more you reveal it to be LEFTIE in nature.

QED.

[fj1200]

Keep your mindless droning in other threads.

Question: IS ABORTION MURDER ?

:headinsand:

You should learn to read the whole quote.

Even the SCOTUS decision was rooted in a right to privacy but IMO it ultimately is based on the fetus as property and not on the fetus of someone deserving of life. Sadly.

One doesn't have to be religious to believe in the natural right of life.

You have to be a mindless drone to read things as wrongly as you.

[bullypulpit]

Like every other anti-abortion zealot, this pastor equates a fetus with a born baby. It's not. Perhaps he should read Leviticus or the book of Numbers...No value is placed upon a fetus or even children to 5 years of age, save as chattel. If you claim to be Christian and believe the Bible to be the actual and revealed word of God...You don't get to pick and choose what parts you want to pay attention to.

Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. - Numbers 3: 15-16

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. - Leviticus 27:6

[fj1200]

Like every other anti-abortion zealot, this pastor equates a fetus with a born baby. It's not.

Perhaps you will provide us the point at which we can differentiate.

[revelarts]

Like every other anti-abortion zealot, this pastor equates a fetus with a born baby. It's not. Perhaps he should read Leviticus or the book of Numbers...No value is placed upon a fetus or even children to 5 years of age, save as chattel. If you claim to be Christian and believe the Bible to be the actual and revealed word of God...You don't get to pick and choose what parts you want to pay attention to.

Exodus 21: 22 -23
“If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows.23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,"

Luke 1:39-43
" At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea,40 where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth.41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy."


Judges 13:2-5
"There was a certain man of Zorah, of the tribe of the Danites, whose name was Manoah. And his wife was barren and had no children. And the angel of the LORD appeared to the woman and said to her, “Behold, you are barren and have not borne children, but you shall conceive and bear a son. Therefore be careful and drink no wine or strong drink, and eat nothing unclean, for behold, you shall conceive and bear a son. No razor shall come upon his head, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb, and he shall begin to save Israel from the hand of the Philistines.”


so among other passages i could sight about God knowing people when conceived and before, in the above we have:

•a woman attacked and giving birth prematurely. if the woman and child are alive there's a fine. If the woman or child die then the attacker gets the death penalty.

•then we see 2 pregnant woman and the biblical writer talking about the children in their wombs and what they will do and what they are doing.

•then we have an angel giving pre-natal dietary advise to a woman that's not even pregnant yet.

The idea of a child being a person, a human life, before birth is very clearly outlined in the bible.