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    Default Mt McKinley to be renamed to Mt Denali... executive order by Obama

    Apparently, Obama is renaming Mt McKinley to Denali before he travels to Alaska.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/us...nali.html?_r=0

    NT, I'd be interested to know your opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Apparently, Obama is renaming Mt McKinley to Denali before he travels to Alaska.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/us...nali.html?_r=0

    NT, I'd be interested to know your opinion...
    When are we to be rid of that stinking vermin?
    That arrogant bastard and lying sack of shat..
    Could he possibly ever be more conceited and arrogant?
    I would dearly love to be able to spit in his face.. as he so richly deserves it IMHO --Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    When are we to be rid of that stinking vermin?
    That arrogant bastard and lying sack of shat..
    Could he possibly ever be more conceited and arrogant?
    I would dearly love to be able to spit in his face.. as he so richly deserves it IMHO --Tyr
    Ha! I love that enthusiasm! Over a year until someone else gets elected, unfortunately, and 2 months after that before Obama 'pardons' every Dem in jail and then finally takes the limo to the airport. I can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    When are we to be rid of that stinking vermin?
    That arrogant bastard and lying sack of shat..
    Could he possibly ever be more conceited and arrogant?
    I would dearly love to be able to spit in his face.. as he so richly deserves it IMHO --Tyr

    There has been a bipartisan effort in Alaska to change the name, in fact a Republican introduced the bill in congress. The problem has been Ohio. Their representatives have been the fly in the ointment blocking the effort because McKinley was from, well, Ohio. This has little to do with Obama except that he may get the name changed outside the normal channels.


    This may be the one instance where I have no problem with that process...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Apparently, Obama is renaming Mt McKinley to Denali before he travels to Alaska.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/us...nali.html?_r=0

    NT, I'd be interested to know your opinion...

    We call it Denali and have for a long time... it's really not an issue. It's still occasionally called McKinley here and there, but I only do it when talking about it to people from the lower 48 because no one down there knows Denali = Mt. McKinley. I used to be against the whole thing, but I've changed my mind over the last decade or two. It's natural now. And, really, McKinley had nothing to do with the discovery - he had a Republican frontiersman / explorer fan back in the day and that's how that came about.

    It's never referred to as 'Mt. Denali', or Denali Mtn or Denali Peak - it's just Denali. Kind of different.

    I don't know why he decided to intrude on the matter, but it is what it is - it was going to happen anyway. Classic example of a politician running like hell to get ahead of a successful movement to claim responsibility. I guess anything to add to his 'legacy'! lol



    On the downside, there's more than a few Air Charter outfits in Talkeetna with the name 'McKinley' in their name, so they're going to have to change so the tourists know what they're all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    There has been a bipartisan effort in Alaska to change the name, in fact a Republican introduced the bill in congress. The problem has been Ohio. Their representatives have been the fly in the ointment blocking the effort because McKinley was from, well, Ohio. This has little to do with Obama except that he may get the name changed outside the normal channels.


    This may be the one instance where I have no problem with that process...
    Seems like a decent thing to do. Seems a very small gesture.
    Not sure if it's within his presidential powers though. If so fine if not chalk up to another unconstitutional act for O.

    But I'm more bothered by his "climate change" activity in Alaska. that crap just won't die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    But I'm more bothered by his "climate change" activity in Alaska. that crap just won't die.

    Yeah, we're all dreading the real reason he's up here.

    It won't be good for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    We call it Denali and have for a long time... it's really not an issue. It's still occasionally called McKinley here and there, but I only do it when talking about it to people from the lower 48 because no one down there knows Denali = Mt. McKinley. I used to be against the whole thing, but I've changed my mind over the last decade or two. It's natural now. And, really, McKinley had nothing to do with the discovery - he had a Republican frontiersman / explorer fan back in the day and that's how that came about.

    It's never referred to as 'Mt. Denali', or Denali Mtn or Denali Peak - it's just Denali. Kind of different.

    I don't know why he decided to intrude on the matter, but it is what it is - it was going to happen anyway. Classic example of a politician running like hell to get ahead of a successful movement to claim responsibility. I guess anything to add to his 'legacy'! lol



    On the downside, there's more than a few Air Charter outfits in Talkeetna with the name 'McKinley' in their name, so they're going to have to change so the tourists know what they're all about.
    Well, my first response was to be against it, basically because Obama is proposing it, but I'm actually changing my mind and saying it's the right thing to do. In Obama's case, it's for the wrong reasons, but it is at least the right thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Well, my first response was to be against it, basically because Obama is proposing it, but I'm actually changing my mind and saying it's the right thing to do. In Obama's case, it's for the wrong reasons, but it is at least the right thing to do.
    On this board, Obama never does the right thing. Even when it is the right thing, it's actually not.

    If Obama really wanted to do something useful, he would give Alaska to Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Well, my first response was to be against it, basically because Obama is proposing it, but I'm actually changing my mind and saying it's the right thing to do. In Obama's case, it's for the wrong reasons, but it is at least the right thing to do.

    Yeah, don't get me wrong... none of us want him to meddle in it. It is arrogance of the highest order to land in the State that hates you the most and change the name of the highest mountain in North America!

    But we've got bigger fish to fry, and this was going to happen anyway. He's still a shithead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Ha! I love that enthusiasm! Over a year until someone else gets elected, unfortunately, and 2 months after that before Obama 'pardons' every Dem and black man in jail and then finally takes the limo to the airport. I can't wait.
    Fixed it for ya

    So the liar in charge will be staying in DC so his kids can finish school there, you know he wouldn't want his kids to go the a public school in Chicago, to many killing and no guns allowed, where his kids go now they have armed guards , so it is just his kids that should be protected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    Fixed it for ya

    So the liar in charge will be staying in DC so his kids can finish school there, you know he wouldn't want his kids to go the a public school in Chicago, to many killing and no guns allowed, where his kids go now they have armed guards , so it is just his kids that should be protected.
    Yes, perhaps he thinks that they might spawn another messiah like him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Well, my first response was to be against it, basically because Obama is proposing it, but I'm actually changing my mind and saying it's the right thing to do. In Obama's case, it's for the wrong reasons, but it is at least the right thing to do.
    My friend, there is VALID reason why our FIRST response to anything that worm wants to do is NO!
    And that is because over 95% of the time --hell no- is the right response to give. -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post


    The republicans are the ones who have been pushing for this move in the state, with both sides of the aisle in support of the name-change. Apparently, some fanboy named it McKinley, instead Denali, which it's been named for a millenia before that.

    Seeing it has popular support, had no actual history attached it, and was apparently the result of rampant fanboyism, gonna say McKinley was the Symbolism over substance here.
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