$15 and hour vs. Military

[jimnyc]

[Gunny]

Ooh-fucking-rah.

[Gunny]

Hell, that almost gave me a hardon.

But it's Mary Jane Rottencrotch.

[Perianne]

Hell, that almost gave me a hardon.

Well, thanks for sharing that! lol

[Noir]

Weak argument is weak, especially the 'deserving' aspect, by way of an example-
Jim, you're in a job, do you earn more than $18,378? If so, do you think you deserve to be paid more than the private getting shot at, deployed etc..?

[Gunny]

Well, thanks for sharing that! lol

Sorry. I like it when Marines sound like Marines.

[jimnyc]

Hell, that almost gave me a hardon.

But it's Mary Jane Rottencrotch.

Now that Gunny was awesome!! While one of the best flicks ever, imagine how awesome it would have been if he were in it and in charge for the entire flick?

[Gunny]

Weak argument is weak, especially the 'deserving' aspect, by way of an example-
Jim, you're in a job, do you earn more than $18,378? If so, do you think you deserve to be paid more than the private getting shot at, deployed etc..?

You would know about that weak argument shit, huh?

[Gunny]

Now that Gunny was awesome!! While one of the best flicks ever, imagine how awesome it would have been if he were in it and in charge for the entire flick?

You talking about R. Lee Ermey? He WAS in charge of the boot camp portion of the flick. You can't fake THAT. That dude was a hat, no "if's" or "but's". But he was the consultant and driving force behind the first half of the flick.

My SDI was just like him, and so was I when I wore that cover.

And back to the drawing board, why the fuck should some pissant burger flipper get paid as much money as someone that goes off to get shot at?

[jimnyc]

Weak argument is weak, especially the 'deserving' aspect, by way of an example-
Jim, you're in a job, do you earn more than $18,378? If so, do you think you deserve to be paid more than the private getting shot at, deployed etc..?

2 different scenarios here:

1 - I think burger flippers, fast food workers, should get what the market dictates. For such places to remain profitable and to offer low prices, they have always employed kids and other folks with low skills, knowing they can pay minimums and still offer competitive prices. Giving low wages isn't doing anything wrong, as they are offering such to kids, and other folks with low or no skills. In other words, they are getting what they are valued at for such a business.

2 - I know our economy cannot afford my proposal - but those facing bullets should get MUCH MUCH more than they get now. This is regardless of what others make. They are way underpaid, but everyone knows that going in, just as Mcdonalds workers know it going in.

*** I very often made more than military folks, much much more. I deserved what I got paid, and sometimes deserved more. But I don't believe I deserved more than military folks. The military should get more, those placing their lives on the line. Civilian workers should get what their business/company dictates and can afford, and not a penny more. No way an entire business should have to raise prices and lose customers - just so that kids and others with little to no skills can feel happier and live better.

I was living crappy when I was like 19. I was making like $9 an hour driving a van delivering crap to medical offices. I couldn't even imagine "demanding" more from anyone! What did I do? I went back to school, got quite a few certificates to get myself employed in the computer field. And it didn't stop there, I continued with the schools (networking (cisco), regular repair, and then to another University). This made me MORE employable and helped me get better jobs and more money.

[Gunny]

2 different scenarios here:

1 - I think burger flippers, fast food workers, should get what the market dictates. For such places to remain profitable and to offer low prices, they have always employed kids and other folks with low skills, knowing they can pay minimums and still offer competitive prices. Giving low wages isn't doing anything wrong, as they are offering such to kids, and other folks with low or no skills. In other words, they are getting what they are valued at for such a business.

2 - I know our economy cannot afford my proposal - but those facing bullets should get MUCH MUCH more than they get now. This is regardless of what others make. They are way underpaid, but everyone knows that going in, just as Mcdonalds workers know it going in.

*** I very often made more than military folks, much much more. I deserved what I got paid, and sometimes deserved more. But I don't believe I deserved more than military folks. The military should get more, those placing their lives on the line. Civilian workers should get what their business/company dictates and can afford, and not a penny more. No way an entire business should have to raise prices and lose customers - just so that kids and others with little to no skills can feel happier and live better.

I was living crappy when I was like 19. I was making like $9 an hour driving a van delivering crap to medical offices. I couldn't even imagine "demanding" more from anyone! What did I do? I went back to school, got quite a few certificates to get myself employed in the computer field. And it didn't stop there, I continued with the schools (networking (cisco), regular repair, and then to another University). This made me MORE employable and helped me get better jobs and more money.

If you earned it, that's fine. You can drag your knuckles on the ground and flip burgers.

[Perianne]

Isn't the military a starting place for many people? Aren't there benefits afterwards like college and preferred status in hiring in some places?

Regardless, I agree that anyone placing their lives on the line should be paid a big whopping amount.

[Gunny]

Isn't the military a starting place for many people? Aren't there benefits afterwards like college and preferred status in hiring in some places?

Regardless, I agree that anyone placing their lives on the line should be paid a big whopping amount.

Yes, it is. It got me out of a Hell hole. You can get educational benefits, but the preferred hiring thing is a thing of the past. It's popular to be a gay black fag nowadays. Black Lies Matter, remember?

[Noir]

2 - I know our economy cannot afford my proposal - but those facing bullets should get MUCH MUCH more than they get now. This is regardless of what others make. They are way underpaid, but everyone knows that going in, just as Mcdonalds workers know it going in.

Thus the inherent weakness on the "deserved" argument.

I was living crappy when I was like 19. I was making like $9 an hour driving a van delivering crap to medical offices. I couldn't even imagine "demanding" more from anyone!

I'm not certain of your age, but i'd guess you were 19 around 1990?
Which makes for interesting adjusted inflation numbers...

Earning $1.43 (almost 10%) more per hour than these burger flippers are asking for was a pretty good wage, no?

[Noir]

You would know about that weak argument shit, huh?

Yes, i do often read your posts ^,^