$15 and hour vs. Military

[Gunny]

Yes, i do often read your posts ^,^

*Yawn*.

Want to try again? As a person who drove a crappy ass junker and lived in a trailer and had to beg my mother for money for formula, I think I got more to say here than you do. While you weak fucks sent me off to war.

My infant diaper-wearing daughter could walk and talk by the time I got to come back home so fuck YOU. Why don't you try believing in something greater than you and belt up your silk panties and fight for it? Or do you just think it's okay to sit around on your ponce ass and let the rest of us do your fighting for you?

SO you go on down to the Burger Doodle at the end of the road and flip you some burgers. Don't EVER question me nor my Marines. That Burger Doodle exists only because of US.

[jimnyc]

Thus the inherent weakness on the "deserved" argument.



I'm not certain of your age, but i'd guess you were 19 around 1990?
Which makes for interesting adjusted inflation numbers...

Earning $1.43 (almost 10%) more per hour than these burger flippers are asking for was a pretty good wage, no?

Trust me, I worked for crap. When I worked for Roy Rogers (fast food), it was like 1984 or so, maybe 85? I was like 16-17-18 when I worked there. Started at like $3.25 an hour and I think I made up to like $4 an hour by the time I quit, and thought that was awesome!! Of course I couldn't live off that money, or get a place to live, or a car - or really anything at all with that money. But it was MORE than fair wages for a kid not even out of HS, or just out of HS, AND for what the job called for. That was pure minimum wage at the time, which is about what I think it's worth today.

I made more with the van driving, as it was a few years later, and my driving was a little more experienced (and I was able to pass a few tests to get the gig). Not to mention the interview was through a friend. And driving through 3 states to deliver things, starting at like 5am and often not getting back till dark, and often lifting very heavy crap. Also, being a lot was medicine related stuff, I also had to pass a background check and offer various references for security reasons. So I think $16-20 today would be fair for that job. But hell, do that calculator with $3.50 for when I worked fast food in 1985. Isn't that less than $10 for today with inflation?

[Gunny]

Trust me, I worked for crap. When I worked for Roy Rogers (fast food), it was like 1984 or so, maybe 85? I was like 16-17-18 when I worked there. Started at like $3.25 an hour and I think I made up to like $4 an hour by the time I quit, and thought that was awesome!! Of course I couldn't live off that money, or get a place to live, or a car - or really anything at all with that money. But it was MORE than fair wages for a kid not even out of HS, or just out of HS, AND for what the job called for. That was pure minimum wage at the time, which is about what I think it's worth today.

I made more with the van driving, as it was a few years later, and my driving was a little more experienced (and I was able to pass a few tests to get the gig). Not to mention the interview was through a friend. And driving through 3 states to deliver things, starting at like 5am and often not getting back till dark, and often lifting very heavy crap. Also, being a lot was medicine related stuff, I also had to pass a background check and offer various references for security reasons. So I think $16-20 today would be fair for that job. But hell, do that calculator with $3.50 for when I worked fast food in 1985. Isn't that less than $10 for today with inflation?

You were 16 in 1984? I remember when minimum was $2.35 and I was making $3.50 and thought I was hot shit.

[Perianne]

You were 16 in 1984? I remember when minimum was $2.35 and I was making $3.50 and thought I was hot shit.

In 1987, I was working in a convenience store, making $4.00 per hour. I was pregnant and in Nursing school. I made enough money to pay my way through college and help keep a household going. I gave birth in November and graduated in December.

[Gunny]

In 1987, I was working in a convenience store, making $4.00 per hour. I was pregnant and in Nursing school. I made enough money to pay my way through college and help keep a household going. I gave birth in November and graduated in December.

How do you make $4.oo per hour in 1987? Barefoot, pregnant and everything, huh?

I'm sorry. I don't what to say.

[Perianne]

How do you make $4.oo per hour in 1987? Barefoot, pregnant and everything, huh?

I'm sorry. I don't what to say.

I did have shoes. Even Kentucky people wear shoes (mostly).

[Gunny]

I did have shoes. Even Kentucky people wear shoes (mostly).

You had shoes? I did for Sunday School and first grade. We ran around barefoot.

And if you want to know about that war crap I ain't putting it on this board. I have a PM box.

[Perianne]

And if you want to know about that war crap I ain't putting it on this board. I have a PM box.

I don't know what you mean. What war "crap"?

[Gunny]

I don't know what you mean. What war "crap"?

Doesn't matter, does it?

[Perianne]

Doesn't matter, does it?

I feel like I have said something wrong to you.

[Gunny]

I feel like I have said something wrong to you.

Nah. I'm okay.

[jimnyc]

You were 16 in 1984? I remember when minimum was $2.35 and I was making $3.50 and thought I was hot shit.

Yeps, born in 1968. When I got a raise from like 3.25 to 3.50, I thought I was hot shit too, like some sort of great employee who got recognized with a huge raise, as many others only got like .10 or .20 after like 6 months or a year.

I was a kid though, and knew the industry and why they paid so little, and I knew I wouldn't be there forever. I used it as a job to gimme some cash till I move on, not as a job to raise a family, as that's NOT what these jobs are for.

[Gunny]

Yeps, born in 1968. When I got a raise from like 3.25 to 3.50, I thought I was hot shit too, like some sort of great employee who got recognized with a huge raise, as many others only got like .10 or .20 after like 6 months or a year.

I was a kid though, and knew the industry and why they paid so little, and I knew I wouldn't be there forever. I used it as a job to gimme some cash till I move on, not as a job to raise a family, as that's NOT what these jobs are for.

Holy crap. 1968? Hell, I was running around in sandals then. And went to Hemisfare.

[jimnyc]

Holy crap. 1968? Hell, I was running around in sandals then. And went to Hemisfare.

Old bastard!

And WTF is "Hemisfare"?

[CSM]

1968: joined the US Army; made $88 per month as a slick sleeve. Made E2 and made $92 per month. It was GREAT! LOL