$15 and hour vs. Military

[Perianne]

1968: joined the US Army; made $88 per month as a slick sleeve. Made E2 and made $92 per month. It was GREAT! LOL

How things have changed. Sometimes I make more than that per hour.

[jimnyc]

1968: joined the US Army; made $88 per month as a slick sleeve. Made E2 and made $92 per month. It was GREAT! LOL

Ok, what is a "slick sleeve"?

[CSM]

Ok, what is a "slick sleeve"?

pay grade E-1; recruit; bottom of the ladder in the enlisted ranks; private .... shitbird, gooney, dumbass and just about any other perjorative the drill sergeants could think up. An E-1 has no rank insignia on his/her uniform. E- 2 is a step up, kinda like pond scum as compared to whale shit (bottom of the deepest ocean ala E1) and has a single stripe on each sleeve of their dress uniform.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Hell, that almost gave me a hardon.

But it's Mary Jane Rottencrotch.

I was very selective in the girls that I (as a teenager(18/19) dated..
Nothing rotten about them--well except maybe when they commanded third base not
ever be touched by me ...--and that was very "hard" on me..

Good girls always got criticized but look who we later looked for to marry!
Seems to me that we were the true dogs in doing all of that back then .. Just sayin'.. --Tyr


Burger flippers get $15 an hour --then combat vets should get about $515 an hour-- yes, one's life is that precious
and even much, much more..
Libs are not only assholes, arrogant and stupid but also have no damn common sense at all. -Tyr

[Gunny]

1968: joined the US Army; made $88 per month as a slick sleeve. Made E2 and made $92 per month. It was GREAT! LOL

Okay, you're old. I made a $200. paycheck and a $199. paycheck as a slick sleeve. Hell, I almost feel rich except I couldn't afford shit.

[DragonStryk72]

Weak argument is weak, especially the 'deserving' aspect, by way of an example-
Jim, you're in a job, do you earn more than $18,378? If so, do you think you deserve to be paid more than the private getting shot at, deployed etc..?

Actually, the thing is, the min wage hike won't help the fast food workers here, so really, the OP is sort of irrelevant. What l happen is that the fast food places will si.ply cut costs, using fewer employees per shift, issuing fewer hours, and automating more and more of the experience, like using a touchscreen register to get around paying a cashier.

Fast food places here have been battling declining sales as is, meaning that raising the wage is going to amplify that. Now, the big reason that fast food is dwindling is people, in general, starting to eat healthier on a regular, and thus, moving away from the quick cheap food.

[Gunny]

Ok, what is a "slick sleeve"?

pay grade E-1; recruit; bottom of the ladder in the enlisted ranks; private .... shitbird, gooney, dumbass and just about any other perjorative the drill sergeants could think up. An E-1 has no rank insignia on his/her uniform. E- 2 is a step up, kinda like pond scum as compared to whale shit (bottom of the deepest ocean ala E1) and has a single stripe on each sleeve of their dress uniform.

Yeah, what he just said. Pond scum. I LMAO. E-2 means you ain't completely worthless anymore. You have enough value to stand duty.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Actually, the thing is, the min wage hike won't help the fast food workers here, so really, the OP is sort of irrelevant. What l happen is that the fast food places will si.ply cut costs, using fewer employees per shift, issuing fewer hours, and automating more and more of the experience, like using a touchscreen register to get around paying a cashier.

Fast food places here have been battling declining sales as is, meaning that raising the wage is going to amplify that. Now, the big reason that fast food is dwindling is people, in general, starting to eat healthier on a regular, and thus, moving away from the quick cheap food.

I Agree.
Higher min-wage will lead to more automation and more shafting of the workers in entry level positions.
As always the lib progressive agenda ends up hurting the very one it so proudly claims to champion. -Tyr

[DragonStryk72]

pay grade E-1; recruit; bottom of the ladder in the enlisted ranks; private .... shitbird, gooney, dumbass and just about any other perjorative the drill sergeants could think up. An E-1 has no rank insignia on his/her uniform. E- 2 is a step up, kinda like pond scum as compared to whale shit (bottom of the deepest ocean ala E1) and has a single stripe on each sleeve of their dress uniform.

We just called them Boot (Boot Camp). Boots weren't bad, it was the butter-bars who were just fucking horrible. Sweet mother of Christ! Laziest salutes I ever got... well, till one of em didn't in front of my BMC as I was coming off 36 hour shift in the Pit (Aft Shaft Bearing. Imagine a Sauna in full sleeves, heated by grease, oil, and steam to soak it in to you.).

[Gunny]

Higher min-wage will lead to more automation and more shafting of the workers in entry level positions.
As always lib progressive agenda ends up hurting the very one it so proudly claims to champion. -Tyr

The point is, the argument is stupid. $15 an hour blanket-wise is BS. $15 an hour is good money where I'm from. Ain't so much in NYC. We all have different costs of living and pay scales. Maybe all these big city folks ought to think about not charging so much money and let people live within their means.

[DragonStryk72]

The point is, the argument is stupid. $15 an hour blanket-wise is BS. $15 an hour is good money where I'm from. Ain't so much in NYC. We all have different costs of living and pay scales. Maybe all these big city folks ought to think about not charging so much money and let people live within their means.

Well, there is a problem with that: supply and demand in the housing market. Believe it or not, NYC is still 7.25/hr min wage, but it's so expensive to live in because the demand for housing far outstrips the supply of housing. A similar event is occuring here in portland, where so many people are moving here, that there aren't enough available apartments for the number of pepole moving.

I do agree that blanket min wage has no benefit. Now, to take a different tack, it should be a matter of county to county, based on the cost of living, with federal min wage only covering federal workers. This allows counties to mitigate their individual costs 9f living, and help break up population dense areas.

[Gunny]

Well, there is a problem with that: supply and demand in the housing market. Believe it or not, NYC is still 7.25/hr min wage, but it's so expensive to live in because the demand for housing far outstrips the supply of housing. A similar event is occuring here in portland, where so many people are moving here, that there aren't enough available apartments for the number of pepole moving.

I do agree that blanket min wage has no benefit. Now, to take a different tack, it should be a matter of county to county, based on the cost of living, with federal min wage only covering federal workers. This allows counties to mitigate their individual costs 9f living, and help break up population dense areas.

Well, rent in San Antonio is about $800. Not $2K like NYC. I understand the difference.

You can't break up population dense areas when all the liberals hovel like rats in a hole. FOr some reason, they feel all safe in the most crime-ridden places in the US.

[fj1200]

Well, there is a problem with that: supply and demand in the housing market. Believe it or not, NYC is still 7.25/hr min wage, but it's so expensive to live in because the demand for housing far outstrips the supply of housing. A similar event is occuring here in portland, where so many people are moving here, that there aren't enough available apartments for the number of pepole moving.

I do agree that blanket min wage has no benefit. Now, to take a different tack, it should be a matter of county to county, based on the cost of living, with federal min wage only covering federal workers. This allows counties to mitigate their individual costs 9f living, and help break up population dense areas.

Does anyone really get paid 7.25 in NYC? And different states and cities are more than welcome to set their own minimum wage.

[Voted4Reagan]

Hell, that almost gave me a hardon.

But it's Mary Jane Rottencrotch.

and her pretty pink panties....

[DragonStryk72]

Does anyone really get paid 7.25 in NYC? And different states and cities are more than welcome to set their own minimum wage.

Yes, I did, as a matter of fact.

Yes, except that it cannot be less than the federal minimum wage, making it a less than ideal determinate. Which is why I had that whole fed min wage being for federal workers.