Police cars' 'In God We Trust' decals draw complaints

[Jeff]

The issue being that it's the government's bumper.

Way I see it, is the issue is the liberals that want to have everything there way, seriously what difference does it make to anyone what the sticker says. if it offends you than don't read it.

Hmm isn't that what the Libs tell us about abortion and homo sex ( 2 just for example )

[Abbey Marie]

I'd love to know who these people do trust.

[Black Diamond]

I'd love to know who these people trust.

Obama...

[Jeff]

Obama...

If that wasn't so true it would of been funny as hell, well hell it's still funny !!!!

[Gunny]

The issue being that it's the government's bumper.

Who cares? You mean some people are getting fed up and are taking a stand against the tyranny of the progressive left? Good.

A person with a functioning brain would be more worried about the ticket book they carry.

And where does it end? I got a big ass scarlet and gold sticker across my back window that says "UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS". That must have offended every little pussy in the world who either couldn't make it, or don't have the balls to try? And I'm NOT talking about people that just have other things to do, I'm talking about the wimps. That would be those people hiding in Mommy's basement telling others what to think while having no original thought of their own.

I bet if those were gay-ass rainbow flags on the cop cars the MSM would be applauding them. You can't have "In God We Trust" but you can light the Whitehouse, the symbol of what once was the most powerful office in the world until 08 like a box of fruity pebbles.

[darin]

Its not the government's bumper - it's the PEOPLE'S bumper. A logical argument for the stickers comes from a court case on the SAME WORDS on our currency.

"...It is quite obvious that the national motto...'In God We Trust' has nothing whatsoever to do with the establishment of religion. Its use is of patriotic or ceremonial character and bears no true resemblance to a governmental sponsorship of a religious exercise. "

So for you trying to find a reason to bash Faith, you are theophobic twits.

[fj1200]

Way I see it, is the issue is the liberals that want to have everything there way, seriously what difference does it make to anyone what the sticker says. if it offends you than don't read it.

Who cares?

Shouldn't the police be seen as fair and impartial? I don't see the logical reason to be seen as promoting something that would distract from their mission.

Its not the government's bumper - it's the PEOPLE'S bumper. A logical argument for the stickers comes from a court case on the SAME WORDS on our currency.

But those are words on a universal symbol. Not the same as post-applied stickers on the PEOPLE'S Bumper. It seems that most other posters here are on the side of the sticker because it promotes religious exercise.

[Jeff]

Shouldn't the police be seen as fair and impartial? I don't see the logical reason to be seen as promoting something that would distract from their mission.



But those are words on a universal symbol. Not the same as post-applied stickers on the PEOPLE'S Bumper. It seems that most other posters here are on the side of the sticker because it promotes religious exercise.

If they have to do everything the liberals want how is that fair and impartial ??? And how is a sticker on the back of their cars going to effect them at all ???

[darin]

But those are words on a universal symbol. Not the same as post-applied stickers on the PEOPLE'S Bumper.

"...It is quite obvious that the national motto...'In God We Trust' has nothing whatsoever to do with the establishment of religion. Its use is of patriotic or ceremonial character and bears no true resemblance to a governmental sponsorship of a religious exercise. "

(shrug)

It seems that most other posters here are on the side of the sticker because it promotes religious exercise.

And some people are on the side of Cops because Cops have wicked-cool cars and lights and shit. WHY folks support a phrase doesn't change the legal read on its use.

[fj1200]

If they have to do everything the liberals want how is that fair and impartial ??? And how is a sticker on the back of their cars going to effect them at all ???

If the liberals wanted a Zoroastrian symbol it wouldn't be fair and impartial and would be opposed.

(shrug)

And some people are on the side of Cops because Cops have wicked-cool cars and lights and shit. WHY folks support a phrase doesn't change the legal read on its use.

Repeating bad logic doesn't make it good logic.

[fj1200]

(shrug)

In a complex and fragmented decision, the majority held that the County of Allegheny violated the Establishment Clause by displaying a crèche in the county courthouse, because the "principle or primary effect" of the display was to advance religion within the meaning of Lemon v. Kurtzman, when viewed in its overall context. Moreover, in contrast to Lynch v. Donnelly, nothing in the crèche’s setting detracted from that message.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County...iberties_Union

[darin]

If the liberals wanted a Zoroastrian symbol it wouldn't be fair and impartial and would be opposed.

Apples to oranges. If the Zoroastrian symbol was part of our official NATIONAL MOTTO, sure.

Repeating bad logic doesn't make it good logic.

And you keep ignoring precident. They cops didn't write "Jesus Saves". The repeated OUR NATIONAL MOTTO, which, as the courts rule, is NOT tantamount to endorsement of religion.

[fj1200]

Apples to oranges. If the Zoroastrian symbol was part of our official NATIONAL MOTTO, sure.

And you keep ignoring precident. They cops didn't write "Jesus Saves". The repeated OUR NATIONAL MOTTO, which, as the courts rule, is NOT tantamount to endorsement of religion.

They are apples and oranges, Arrow is a question of national motto whereas in Allegheny was a question of advancing religion. What do you think the issue is with the bumper stickers? My guess is stickers are not of a national motto.

And I'm not ignoring precedent, I'm correctly applying it and isn't that the most important part of precedent?

I should add though that I hope the cops win.

[red state]

We are a Christian Nation.....started out that way and will hopefully end that way.

Our founders set up a system that tolerated other beliefs but, AS A CHRISTIAN NATION, they set up a system that did not endorse any particular CHRISTIAN denomination......but they understood and supported CHRISTIANITY as our NATION's Foundation.

As for the separation of church and state.....the libs have that as flat-out-wrong as they do "Freedom FROM Religion". The separation plan of our founders were to keep the gov. out of our churches, not keep GOD, whom we swear allegiance to out of our gov.

Forgive a repeat but I read or skimmed over the comments made and failed to see the foundation to this argument. Doubly so, the cars should stay as is due to our CHRISTIAN founding & due to that being our OFFICIAL, voted on, motto.

BOTTOM LINE...

[Gunny]

Shouldn't the police be seen as fair and impartial? I don't see the logical reason to be seen as promoting something that would distract from their mission.



But those are words on a universal symbol. Not the same as post-applied stickers on the PEOPLE'S Bumper. It seems that most other posters here are on the side of the sticker because it promotes religious exercise.

I think they should reflect whatever the Hell they want to. Isn't THAT the true definition of being "liberal"? What I think they ought to NOR reflact is the politically correct, progressive left.

Here's a novel ideal" Clean your own f-ing house before telling me how to clean mine. The progressive left is a smokescreen and it's a simple strategy. Attack to hide you own failures. Complicating the matter are ball-less people like Boehner and McConnel qho won't stand up and call "bullshit".