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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    They are apples and oranges, Arrow is a question of national motto whereas in Allegheny was a question of advancing religion. What do you think the issue is with the bumper stickers? My guess is stickers are not of a national motto.

    And I'm not ignoring precedent, I'm correctly applying it and isn't that the most important part of precedent?

    I should add though that I hope the cops win.
    You are incorrectly applying precident. The point is - it's The National Motto. The Motto. Display thereof and inclusion thereof on government "property" is NOT tantamount to establishment or promotion of a religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    (shrug)



    And some people are on the side of Cops because Cops have wicked-cool cars and lights and shit. WHY folks support a phrase doesn't change the legal read on its use.
    It doesn't matter what someone's bumper sticker says. Who cares? I think I've made it clear what I think of cops. But going around killing them? Committing murder in the name of some bullshit?

    Show me anyone who was a slave and anyone that owned one. THEN I'll tell that f*cker to pay up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    You are incorrectly applying precident.
    :cagematch: Allegheny v. Arrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    :cagematch: Allegheny v. Arrow
    You mean as in Green Arrow? Oliver from the DC comic books from the 60s? The only person that even came close to kicking his ass was Green Lantern, until Hal Jordan realized what he was doing. Oliver was the avenger of the oppressed while Hal was the perfect puppet of the government.

    They're just a metaphor as us as a society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    You know what, we already know that they will be removed, that's the world we live in today. No way in hell "I" would remove them, but in today's PC world they will cave. But it's still hilarious to watch the whiners get up in arms over and over and over. Once the drama is said and done, and removed like I predict, they should wait a few weeks and then move them to the ambulances for that area. And then when said and done, off to the fire department.

    "We appreciate you guys being out there to protect our lives and serve us, but you can't have that word on your car, it offends me". <---- Seriously, losers?

    What if an officer wore a 2"x2" pin on his uniform, with a cross, or Jesus.. on his UNIFORM. Would nitwits complain about that too?

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    DALLAS (AP) — A police department in a Texas Bible Belt community has placed large "In God We Trust" decals on its patrol vehicles in response to recent violence against law enforcement officers, drawing criticism from a watchdog group that says the decals amount to an illegal government endorsement of religion.

    The decision by police this month to unveil the phrase in Childress, an agricultural community of some 6,100 people at the southern edge of the Texas Panhandle, follows a similar move by dozens of other police agencies elsewhere in the country.

    Police Chief Adrian Garcia said he decided to add the decals in response to recent attacks on law enforcement personnel that have received broad attention, including the Aug. 28 killing of a sheriff's deputy who was shot 15 times at a Houston-area gas station.

    "I think with all the assaults happening on officers across the country ... it's time we get back to where we once were," Garcia told the Red River Sun newspaper. He did not respond to an Associated Press request for comment.

    The Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund notes that eight officers have been shot and killed in the U.S. in the last month — and four died in the span of 10 days — but shooting deaths of officers from January through September of this year were actually down 13 percent compared to the same period last year.

    Other law enforcement agencies have cited different reasons for adding the phrase to their vehicles. Mark Nichols, the sheriff of Randolph County, Missouri, said he had it added to his department's fleet in July out of a sense of patriotism.

    "It's our nation's motto and we want to be patriotic toward our country," Nichols said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/police-cars-go...144756053.html
    It's just another plank of the commie left (DemocRat) agenda....to remove all sources of protection that people have relied on OTHER than the federal government. Can't have people looking to police OR to God for help now, can we?

    Only Big Brutha (aka Barack Hussein Obama) can protect you. No seriously...that's what they want us to believe.

    Absurd, eh?

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