Freedom of Speech

[DLT]

He has no fucking case, everyone has told him that, not even in the UK would he have a case. He has jack shit, except for a case of the butts hurt. Boo fucking hoo. Everyone gets insulted from time to time.

And that ^^^ is not helping either, Jim.

[DLT]

Yup, I highly respected poster and moderator here who has made it a habit of not jumping to unsustained conclusions. Unlike...

Well hey...don't blame me. If you're gonna waddle like a leftie duck (sp slightly off here), quack like a leftie duck (again, sp used loosely here) and then pretend to be a swan...

I shall be forced to point out your duckiness (sp, again).

I'm just funny that way.

[DLT]

Originally Posted by Motown
Just checking, this is a joke thread, right?





As The Stomach Turns


Will Kathianne submit to Drummond and apologize? Will Drummond fess up to his hypocrisy? Will Gunny follow Indago around the message board and give him a LegHump?


Stay Tuned!

Um....with all due respect....

you're the one doing all the leg-humping here. I think a nice neutering might take your 'mind' off of things, eh?

[jimnyc]

Right. Anyone can call anyone else a liberal, a leftie, or whatever here on American forums. Oh wait....you can't call someone a queer, a fag, a lesbo, etc., at most forums (run by lefties). And you can't use the "N" word on most forums (run by lefties). And if you dare post something about Hillary's cankles at one particular forum I know of, they'll perma-ban you...lol. But here, it's no biggie.

Just AS the issue of gun ownership is a big "no-no" deal on the Brit forum....the issue of calling or being called a liberal on American forums is a non-issue. Different culture, different mentality/mindset.

You can post them here, whether others like it or not. We're not handing out bans because of name calling.

[DLT]

You can post them here, whether others like it or not. We're not handing out bans because of name calling.

Exactly my point.

[jimnyc]

And that ^^^ is not helping either, Jim.

I agreed to drop this thread. Drummond agreed to drop this thread. He continued instead. That's what is not helping. But if you push a legal issue with my board, and continue to make accusations, and refuse to drop it...

[jimnyc]

Exactly my point.

But Drummond feels we SHOULD be taking action over name calling, and that the name he was called was out of line AND that I am wrong because I refuse to intervene and do something about it.

[jimnyc]

Who here has identified "Drummond" as a result of his username and/or the name calling?

There is the Communications Decency Act, Section 230, to protect you (the forum owner) from a civil action over defamatory statements made by others on your site, if you do not contribute to or encourage the publication of the content.

As to the anonymity provided by user names: If an unnamed individual can be identified by others through description or circumstance, this can be enough of an identification to meet that element of defamation.

[jimnyc]

For those who read the other legal board site - seems a few on the legal side say to just ban the person with the accusation. This is not my intent nor was it ever. I still believe in freedom of speech and am allowing this to go as far as possible. My last resort is to simply zip this thread up eventually. But ignore calls for bans, not my intent or style. Attorneys will of course advise to walk away from such issues when accused, just in case. But I don't see anything going that far. Ignore any of that talk.

[jimnyc]

And unless I can get one of them to go get citations, or want to spend any more energy on this - I think the best we will get is what they have written. They wouldn't decide a case. They do show that the person would need to be identified. The case would be difficult, if not impossible. But as they say - "anyone can sue anyone for anything". That surely doesn't mean they'll win though, or not have it tossed out of court. I posted from the DMLP earlier, showing the latitude one has when choosing to make such statements. Then we all know there are no damages. Even if such a thing ever reached the inside of a courtroom, no way would all of the elements be met.

When name calling and such matters is when the shit is stated about public figures. But hell, go out there and swear up and down that Hillary is REALLY a conservative. While a retarded comment, even she wouldn't successfully be able to sue. Why? No one would believe it to begin with. Then again, the public has MUCH more latitude when speaking of political figures.

Bottom line, the public would need to know who the offended party is. The offended party would need to suffer damages. I don't care HOW MUCH someone is insulted by this - can you imagine being in front of a judge, and he asks what the issue is - "Well, your honor, she called me a liberal" - "Oh, and your honor, this took place on an internet message board".

So, either SUE, or get off the pot, or move on, or whatever. But the issue is DEAD here on DP. Time to move on now. The show is over.