And Speaking of the NFL

[Motown]

They're trying to tap the money. I kind of miss when I was a kid and these players all had day jobs and played just to play. It's all about money now and not ONE of today's teams could take on a team from the 60s. They'd be beat up, broken bruised and whining by the end of the 1st quarter.

I understand the sentiment, I miss the old NFL too but I think football is the only sport where a team from the past would have no chance against a modern team. The Packers from the 1960's would get blown out by today's worst NFL team and I don't even think they could beat a good college team because they wouldn't be able to control the line of scrimmage.

[jimnyc]

Jack Lambert. And I hated Bill Lambeer. Him and Rick Mahorn. I never hurt anyone intentionally. Doesn't mean I don't know how. I'm betting bets are off in a one on one game with O-blah-blah. All he'd have to do is come into the paint the first time.

Lambert is perhaps the best Steeler ever. He made the LB position and every Steeler player since wants to emulate him. He was mean and nasty, and a fierce competitor. Now THAT was "smash mouth football"!

[fj1200]

As a bulls fan, I knew hatred of the bad boys. I think everyone outside the state of Michigan hated Laimbeer. I hated isiah too.

They were awesome. Those Pistons actually played defense.

[Gunny]

I understand the sentiment, I miss the old NFL too but I think football is the only sport where a team from the past would have no chance against a modern team. The Packers from the 1960's would get blown out by today's worst NFL team and I don't even think they could beat a good college team because they wouldn't be able to control the line of scrimmage.

Depends on whose rules you're playing by. You play by 1960s rules no team today would survive. They'd be beat up by halftime. Run over. Packers and Cowboys of the late 60s? Dolphins, Raiders and Steelers of the early 70s? It'd be a whine-fest. I didn't like him but one of today's receivers taking a hit from Lester Hayes? Season ending bruise.

[Gunny]

]Lambert is perhaps the best Steeler ever[/B]. He made the LB position and every Steeler player since wants to emulate him. He was mean and nasty, and a fierce competitor. Now THAT was "smash mouth football"!

There a question here? And James, start drooling ... I have his rookie card.

[Elessar]

Speaking of the general scum and worthlessness of the NFL, I remain continually amazing at the continued determination to place teams in the Los Angeles area. In spite of the fact that pro football has FAILED here before.


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Teams fail there because of the huge TV market, and the fact that by the end of the 3rd Quarter, people are already leaving
to escape the horrid traffic!

[Gunny]

Teams fail there because of the huge TV market, and the fact that by the end of the 3rd Quarter, people are already leaving
to escape the horrid traffic!

I've only been to a couple of games. More Spurs games than anything else. When I lived in Miami, the Orange Bowl was one of the worst neighborhoods in the metro area. Same when the Clippers were still in San Diego. Ain't parking my ride in EITHER place. Besides, who ever goes to Clippers games?

[Motown]

They were awesome. Those Pistons actually played defense.

They were so good at it the NBA had to change the rules so that little crybaby Jordan could do well and make money for Nike.

[Gunny]

They were awesome. Those Pistons actually played defense.

No, they didn't. There's a difference between defense and just hammering people. The Spurs play defense. The Pistons just beat people up. Beating people up requires little brains and know how. Being able to play basketball and actually defend not required.

[Motown]

The Pistons just beat people up.

Not all of them, just two.

[Black Diamond]

Not all of them, just two.

I think rodman was one of the best defenders ever. And best rebounder. He didn't have to pound.

[Gunny]

I think rodman was one of the best defenders ever. And best rebounder. He didn't have to pound.

Rodman was also a colossal goof. I remember when he was on the Spurs and decided in the middle of the playoffs to act like a bitch. He cost them a title run. When he played on teams that didn't need him, and Michael Jordan basically told him exactly THAT, he was good.

David Robinson couldn't carry the Spurs alone. He couldn't bang. When he had Cummings and Rodman to do the dirty work, they won. He sucked until Larry Brown brought in Maurice Cheeks and Caldwell Jones, but the Spurs were lousy unless they had another big man.

Laimbeer and Mahorn didn't play basketball. They just beat up people. They whole team were poor sports. When they lost to the Bulls they walked off like little spanked bitches. We ALWAYS had to shake with the other team, win or lose. One of the most memorable cases of poor sportsmanship I've seen.

[Motown]

I think rodman was one of the best defenders ever. And best rebounder. He didn't have to pound.

And back then he wasn't yet completely certifiable.

[Black Diamond]

Rodman was also a colossal goof. I remember when he was on the Spurs and decided in the middle of the playoffs to act like a bitch. He cost them a title run. When he played on teams that didn't need him, and Michael Jordan basically told him exactly THAT, he was good.

David Robinson couldn't carry the Spurs alone. He couldn't bang. When he had Cummings and Rodman to do the dirty work, they won. He sucked until Larry Brown brought in Maurice Cheeks and Caldwell Jones, but the Spurs were lousy unless they had another big man.

Laimbeer and Mahorn didn't play basketball. They just beat up people. They whole team were poor sports. When they lost to the Bulls they walked off like little spanked bitches. We ALWAYS had to shake with the other team, win or lose. One of the most memorable cases of poor sportsmanship I've seen.

Oh I agree about Thomas mahorn and Laimbeer. The walkoff was the worst thing ever. Thomas led the walkoff after the bulls swept their asses. He also played the race card about Bird's mvp honors after bird stole his inbound pass and made him look stupid. I think Thomas was just as dirty as anyone. He just got away with more casue he was a point guard.

[Motown]

Rodman was also a colossal goof. I remember when he was on the Spurs and decided in the middle of the playoffs to act like a bitch. He cost them a title run. When he played on teams that didn't need him, and Michael Jordan basically told him exactly THAT, he was good.

David Robinson couldn't carry the Spurs alone. He couldn't bang. When he had Cummings and Rodman to do the dirty work, they won. He sucked until Larry Brown brought in Maurice Cheeks and Caldwell Jones, but the Spurs were lousy unless they had another big man.

Laimbeer and Mahorn didn't play basketball. They just beat up people. They whole team were poor sports. When they lost to the Bulls they walked off like little spanked bitches. We ALWAYS had to shake with the other team, win or lose. One of the most memorable cases of poor sportsmanship I've seen.

Like it or not the Bad Boys were the end of the team era in the NBA, after them it became Jordan and the Bulls, or Kobe and the Lakers, or LeBron and whoever is paying him the most this year. And there was history to that handshake thing, the Bulls did that first.