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    This group is currently around Hama which is where Russia is pounding the terrorists the most and where the SAA is attempting to take back territory.


    Notice the word Mujahideen referring to jihad guerrilla warfare. Most probably referring to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan that was funded and supported by the United States to fight the soviets during the invasion by the soviet union in the 1980's. These jihadis later formed into todays Taliban which United States troops died against in the invasion of Afghanistan for the aim of increasing opium production.

    These are the kind of strikes hitting these terrorist filth bags by the Russians


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Notice the word Mujahideen referring to jihad guerrilla warfare. Most probably referring to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan that was funded and supported by the United States to fight the soviets during the invasion by the soviet union in the 1980's. These jihadis later formed into todays Taliban which United States troops died against in the invasion of Afghanistan for the aim of increasing opium production.
    I don't think that's true. IIRC the Mujahideen are more akin to the Northern Alliance than the Taliban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I don't think that's true. IIRC the Mujahideen are more akin to the Northern Alliance than the Taliban.
    The Islamic Unity of Afghanistan Mujahideen, also known as the Seven Party Mujahideen Alliance or Peshawar Seven, was anAfghan organization formed in either 1981 or 1985

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    The Islamic Unity of Afghanistan Mujahideen, also known as the Seven Party Mujahideen Alliance or Peshawar Seven, was anAfghan organization formed in either 1981 or 1985...
    ... which did not become the Taliban against whom the US fought in 2001.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    ... which did not become the Taliban against whom the US fought in 2001.
    Sorry friend-

    The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Sorry friend-

    The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained mujahideen in northern Pakistan, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban
    Your links don't prove your assertions, and are even contrary, especially the last one:

    The Taliban's extremely strict and anti-modern ideology has been described as an "innovative form of sharia combining Pashtun tribal codes,"[201] or Pashtunwali, with radical Deobandi interpretations of Islam favored by JUI and its splinter groups. Also contributing to the mix was the militant Islamism and extremist jihadism of Osama bin Laden.[202] Their ideology was a departure from the Islamism of the anti-Soviet mujahideen rulers they replaced who tended to be mystical Sufis, traditionalists, or radical Islamicists inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan).[203]
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Your links don't prove your assertions, and are even contrary, especially the last one:
    But still many members of the taliban were ex mujahideen and it got many of their ideas from the mujahideen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    But still...
    Changing goalposts again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Changing goalposts again?
    Attack the language I use instead of what I said. Surprise surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Attack the language I use instead of what I said. Surprise surprise.
    I'm not attacking. I'm pointing out that you are changing your argument. It's hard for conspiracists to stay on fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm not attacking. I'm pointing out that you are changing your argument. It's hard for conspiracists to stay on fact.
    How am I a 'conspiracist' for saying the US funded and gave weapons to radical islamists during the soviet Afghan war who many later joined the taliban?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    How am I a 'conspiracist' for saying the US funded and gave weapons to radical islamists during the soviet Afghan war who many later joined the taliban?
    You're a conspiracist for other reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    You're a conspiracist for other reasons.
    I am not on this specific matter, it is an admitted fact they funded Islamists to take on the soviets during the war many of them later joined the taliban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    How am I a 'conspiracist' for saying the US funded and gave weapons to radical islamists during the soviet Afghan war who many later joined the taliban?
    Which is not at all what you said in the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Which is not at all what you said in the OP.
    I said in the OP the 'rebels' are jihadis that would support mujahideen/islamic fundamentalist ideas. In the video one could be heard saying mujahideen but then that did not mean I was saying that they were in fact mujahideen but had sympathies to their ideology which is similar to their jihadi world view.

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