If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
*sweats nervously, awaiting Brinkers slam-dunk put-down of my 'let's go through this in detail' post*
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If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Heck I thought this was about conservatives. I thought WE the villain constitutionalists.
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“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
All this argument about borders, and honestly, both sides are ignoring the simplest truths:
1. Border control is a given in every civilized country in the world except ours: I'm sorry, but this idea of a country having no control over its border is absolutely ludicrous. England has control of its borders. France, Germany, Italy, control of their borders (Such as when they shut out the refugees making their way west, so for Germany, who CHOSE to let refugees in, which is still keeping their borders under control). Israel has border control, China and Japan have border control. I mean, seriously, this isn't a hell of a lot to ask for understanding on.
2. Porous borders can bring in diseases: Simple point of fact, people carry diseases. For some of these, they don't show as symptomatic, because they're a carrier. It's a matter of time before someone rolls through the Mexican border with something damaging and contagious.
3. Economic Impact: 12,000,000+ people is basically the population of cities like NY, LA, and Chicago. 12,000,000 people have an effect on the economy, saying otherwise is a denial of reality. And don't give me the "Job Americans won't do" crap, either. I'm American, I'd do the jobs, it's been disproven.
4. It's actually hurtful FOR the illegals: Funny thing about black markets involving human being- They generally end up with the desperate getting horribly screwed. Human trafficking of all kinds flourishes under the current setup of our border security, and needs to be fixed.
5. Criminals are getting through the line- This is not to say all were criminals before they violated the border, or intend to commit violent crimes when they get here. It does not remove, however, the fact of people who are, and who do intend to wreak havoc here.
"Government screws up everything. If government says black, you can bet it's white. If government says sit still for your safety, you'd better run for your life!"
--Wayne Allyn Root
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Leftists, communists, marxists, today's liberals , socialists of allstripes are all turds infesting the same drainage ditch.
As history shows when they spread out into the fields they destroy!
Over 120 million peoples murdered by them--a conservative estimate.
You can set there and ever so smugly ignore or deny that reality all that you want but it just shows the liberal insanity infesting your brain.
Communism has almost caught up with Islam in number of millions it has murdered and Islam has been at 1400+ years!
Both are cancers upon humanity and both need to be eradicated in my opinion.-Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
^^^^^^ That highlights their massive hypocrisy and pure deceit in what they claim to represent!You damned sure hold all us white Christian males to the letter of the law.
They truly represent dictatorships, cruel oppression and murder!
They being modern leftists/ liberals(especially dems) and their allies. -Tyr
18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.