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    Well, that was easy enough. The chickenhawks lose big time on this issue!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Plainly, no argument here. The man is correct in his litigation. Enough is enough.
    So you can tell your bosss when you will report for work?


    How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Well, that was easy enough. The chickenhawks lose big time on this issue!!!!!!!!!
    The surge is working

    The US is winning and the left (and the terrorists) are losing


    How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Plainly, no argument here. The man is correct in his litigation. Enough is enough.
    GO back up and read the thread. His accumulated deployed time is nothing. He's trying to count each and ever workup or TDY.

    By his standards, I could multiply my total number of deployments by four.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    He probably had a really tough job in the military like a cook or something too. Probably got a Purple Heart for dish pan hands!
    Since we really don't know what the hell he did, we just don't know do we?

    Did I read that you said you were never in the military? I notice you are quick to insult without real knowledge. Your usually sharper than that, I'm suprised!

    Maybe the guy was gung-ho at one time and has changed his mind, you know, like Hillary or John Kerry.

    Oh, by the way. One of the hardest damn jobs in the military is a cook, just so you know. When I was on the Ranger in 1976 we had a cook who could cook every special order egg for the breakfast line. He was a hoot to watch. The dude cooked 2,000 eggs in a couple of hours. He could fill the entire 6 ft grill with omelettes, over mediums, easy's and other specials and get every single one perfect, every morning, every time. On top of that he memorized what each crewman ate each morning, you need say nothing. Amazing. Ask some of these military cats on here who is their favorite or was their favorite person in the military and I would think the cook would rate out well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Agreed. The Corps goes by accumulated deployed time, not # of deployments. This guy's a whiner. I've had more deployed time in 18 months thn this guy has total.
    Were you a reservist or enlisted full time?

    Is there a difference, when it comes to time spent, in a war zone for them verses a full timer, enlisted man? Or do they have to spend the same amount of time overseas in a war zone as someone who was enlisted, full time, not in the Reserves?

    I honestly do not know, and admittantly don't truely understand how it all works?

    jd

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmett View Post
    Since we really don't know what the hell he did, we just don't know do we?

    Did I read that you said you were never in the military? I notice you are quick to insult without real knowledge. Your usually sharper than that, I'm suprised!

    Maybe the guy was gung-ho at one time and has changed his mind, you know, like Hillary or John Kerry.

    Oh, by the way. One of the hardest damn jobs in the military is a cook, just so you know. When I was on the Ranger in 1976 we had a cook who could cook every special order egg for the breakfast line. He was a hoot to watch. The dude cooked 2,000 eggs in a couple of hours. He could fill the entire 6 ft grill with omelettes, over mediums, easy's and other specials and get every single one perfect, every morning, every time. On top of that he memorized what each crewman ate each morning, you need say nothing. Amazing. Ask some of these military cats on here who is their favorite or was their favorite person in the military and I would think the cook would rate out well.
    There maybe something to say for the Navy cooks. Of course the guys we appreciated the most were the medics and the chopper pilots. The cooks were not so appreciated in the army. Although their status improved somewhat when we were attached to the Marines for a while. The Navy provided the chow which was incredibly good. Much better than what we usually got when we came out of the field. But for the most part we lived on c-rats.

    I believe most bases and posts now use civilian contractors, so military cooks are not as common any more except in the Navy aboard ship.

    In my unit the cook was just a guy who volunteered for the job to get out of the field.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

    You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
    Were you a reservist or enlisted full time?

    Is there a difference, when it comes to time spent, in a war zone for them verses a full timer, enlisted man? Or do they have to spend the same amount of time overseas in a war zone as someone who was enlisted, full time, not in the Reserves?

    I honestly do not know, and admittantly don't truely understand how it all works?

    jd
    Deployed time is deployed time. One day for one day. War zone or not. Reservist or regular.

    If you call me a reservist, we WILL have angry words. I an a 20 year, retired active duty Marine
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    So,,,,,,,,,you get pissed about being called a reservist?


    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Deployed time is deployed time. One day for one day. War zone or not. Reservist or regular.

    If you call me a reservist, we WILL have angry words. I an a 20 year, retired active duty Marine
    As you already know I have done both from the Viet Nam war (purely active duty) to the Grenada, Panama and Persion Gulf I thing, all National Guard.

    The piss ant self appointed 6 star general in the White House did time in the Texas ANG, could not complete his assignments and opted out early despite contrary need of his country and respect of his peers.

    The Reservists and Guardspeople of today deserve far more than that one ever earned.

    You got angry words for Reservists and Guardsmen of today? Spit them out, cowgirl!!!!!!!!!!!! But I do understand completely your disdain for the others!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    So,,,,,,,,,you get pissed about being called a reservist?




    As you already know I have done both from the Viet Nam war (purely active duty) to the Grenada, Panama and Persion Gulf I thing, all National Guard.

    The piss ant self appointed 6 star general in the White House did time in the Texas ANG, could not complete his assignments and opted out early despite contrary need of his country and respect of his peers.

    The Reservists and Guardspeople of today deserve far more than that one ever earned.

    You got angry words for Reservists and Guardsmen of today? Spit them out, cowgirl!!!!!!!!!!!! But I do understand completely your disdain for the others!!!!!!!!
    According to you youo have done everything............

    If you attack the Clintons publically make sure all your friends know your not planning on commiting suicide ~ McCain 2008
    Happiness is Obama's picture on the back of a milk carton.

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    I have never claimed that I had done everything but that is not important here.



    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    According to you youo have done everything............
    I have certainly done, am doing and am determined to do far more for my country and countrymen than you could possibly imagine. Keep on posting your nonsense, nm. I'm not the only one that has noticed your idiocies.

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    Democrats

    David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72
    Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, etc
    Jimmy Carter: Lt. Commander in the Navy 1946-53
    Wesley Clark: Army 1966-2000, Vietnam, Silver star, purple heart
    Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver/Bronze stars, Vietnam
    Bill Clinton: Did not serve
    Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72
    Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze star
    Michael Dukakis: Army 1955-57
    John Edwards: Did not serve
    Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71
    John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs; Air Medal w/18 Clusters
    Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam as journalist
    Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74
    Howell Heflin: Silver star
    Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze star
    Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII
    Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53
    Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
    John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver/Bronze stars, purple hearts
    Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII
    Jim McDermott: Navy 1968-70
    George McGovern: Silver star & DFC during WWII
    Zell Miller: Marine Corps, 1953-56
    Walter Mondale: Army 1951-53
    Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver star, etc
    Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze star, Korea
    Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-79; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
    Chuck Robb: U.S. Marine Corps, 1961-70, Vietnam
    Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
    Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart
    Republicans

    Spencer Abraham: Did not serve
    Eliot Abrams: Did not serve
    Richard Armitage: Navy, three tours in Vietnam
    John Ashcroft: Did not serve
    Roy Blunt: Did not serve
    Michael Bloomberg: Did not serve
    George H.W. Bush: Youngest Navy pilot in WW II; awarded DFC
    George W. Bush: Texas Air Nat. Guard; didn't take physical; suspended from flying
    Jeb Bush: Did not serve
    Saxby Chambliss: Did not serve. Attacked Cleland's patriotism
    Dick Cheney: Did not serve
    Christopher Cox: Did not serve
    Tom DeLay: Did not serve
    Bob Dole: Army in WWII, Bronze star, two purple hearts
    Bob Dornan: Enlisted after fighting was over in Korea
    John Engler: Did not serve
    Douglas Feith: Did not serve
    Gerald Ford: Lt. Commander, Navy in WWII
    Bill Frist: Did not serve
    Newt Gingrich: Did not serve
    Rudy Giuliani: Did not serve
    Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer
    Phil Gramm: Did not serve
    Chuck Hagel: Served in Vietnam, two Bronze stars and purple heart
    Dennis Hastert: Did not serve
    Tim Hutchison: Did not serve
    Jack Kemp: Did not serve. "Knee problem," continued in NFL for 8 years
    Jon Kyl: Did not serve
    Trent Lott: Did not serve
    Richard Lugar: Intelligence officer in Navy 1957-60
    John McCain: POW in Vietnam, Legion of Merit, Silver star, DFC, many more
    Mitch McConnell: Did not serve
    John McHugh: Did not serve
    George Pataki: Did not serve
    Richard Perle: Did not serve
    Colin Powell: 35 years in Army, 4-star general
    Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard
    Ronald Reagan: Served in WWII making movies
    Tom Ridge: Army in Vietnam, Bronze star
    Dana Rohrabacher: Did not serve
    Karl Rove: Did not serve
    Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor
    Rick Santorum: Did not serve
    Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base
    Richard Shelby: Did not serve
    JC Watts: Did not serve
    Vin Weber: Did not serve
    Paul Wolfowitz: Did not serve
    Pundits, Preachers, and Judges

    Bill Bennett: Did not serve
    Wolf Blitzer: Did not serve
    Pat Buchanan: Did not serve
    William Buckley: Army in WWII
    Charlie Daniels: Did not serve
    Lou Dobbs: Did not serve
    Paul Gigot: Did not serve
    Sean Hannity: Did not serve
    Bill Kristol: Did not serve
    Jim Lehrer: U.S. Marine Corps
    Rush Limbaugh: Did not serve
    Chris Matthews: Did not serve
    Michael Medved: Did not serve
    Ted Nugent: Did not serve
    Bill O'Reilly: Did not serve
    Dan Rather: Army Reserve
    Ralph Reed: Did not serve
    Michael Savage: Did not serve
    Antonin Scalia: Did not serve
    Kenneth Starr: Did not serve
    Clarence Thomas: Did not serve
    John Wayne: Did not serve
    George Will: Did not serve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radbrad View Post
    George Will: Did not serve
    Do you plan on making the same post in every thread?
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    nice repost Radbrad, specially since it really doesn't have anything to do about this guy complaining that he is getting shipped out again.

    i think that there are more military and war on terror threads that you can put that list in just so you know
    Does Monkeybone have to choke a bitch?
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" —Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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    Either these cats just can't read or they choose to ignore the facts. Either way, I don't think they understand at all!!!!!!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Radbrad View Post
    Democrats

    David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72
    Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, etc
    Jimmy Carter: Lt. Commander in the Navy 1946-53
    Wesley Clark: Army 1966-2000, Vietnam, Silver star, purple heart
    Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver/Bronze stars, Vietnam
    Bill Clinton: Did not serve
    Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72
    Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze star
    Michael Dukakis: Army 1955-57
    John Edwards: Did not serve
    Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71
    John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs; Air Medal w/18 Clusters
    Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam as journalist
    Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74
    Howell Heflin: Silver star
    Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze star
    Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII
    Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53
    Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
    John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver/Bronze stars, purple hearts
    Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII
    Jim McDermott: Navy 1968-70
    George McGovern: Silver star & DFC during WWII
    Zell Miller: Marine Corps, 1953-56
    Walter Mondale: Army 1951-53
    Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver star, etc
    Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze star, Korea
    Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-79; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
    Chuck Robb: U.S. Marine Corps, 1961-70, Vietnam
    Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
    Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart
    Republicans

    Spencer Abraham: Did not serve
    Eliot Abrams: Did not serve
    Richard Armitage: Navy, three tours in Vietnam
    John Ashcroft: Did not serve
    Roy Blunt: Did not serve
    Michael Bloomberg: Did not serve
    George H.W. Bush: Youngest Navy pilot in WW II; awarded DFC
    George W. Bush: Texas Air Nat. Guard; didn't take physical; suspended from flying
    Jeb Bush: Did not serve
    Saxby Chambliss: Did not serve. Attacked Cleland's patriotism
    Dick Cheney: Did not serve
    Christopher Cox: Did not serve
    Tom DeLay: Did not serve
    Bob Dole: Army in WWII, Bronze star, two purple hearts
    Bob Dornan: Enlisted after fighting was over in Korea
    John Engler: Did not serve
    Douglas Feith: Did not serve
    Gerald Ford: Lt. Commander, Navy in WWII
    Bill Frist: Did not serve
    Newt Gingrich: Did not serve
    Rudy Giuliani: Did not serve
    Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer
    Phil Gramm: Did not serve
    Chuck Hagel: Served in Vietnam, two Bronze stars and purple heart
    Dennis Hastert: Did not serve
    Tim Hutchison: Did not serve
    Jack Kemp: Did not serve. "Knee problem," continued in NFL for 8 years
    Jon Kyl: Did not serve
    Trent Lott: Did not serve
    Richard Lugar: Intelligence officer in Navy 1957-60
    John McCain: POW in Vietnam, Legion of Merit, Silver star, DFC, many more
    Mitch McConnell: Did not serve
    John McHugh: Did not serve
    George Pataki: Did not serve
    Richard Perle: Did not serve
    Colin Powell: 35 years in Army, 4-star general
    Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard
    Ronald Reagan: Served in WWII making movies
    Tom Ridge: Army in Vietnam, Bronze star
    Dana Rohrabacher: Did not serve
    Karl Rove: Did not serve
    Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor
    Rick Santorum: Did not serve
    Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base
    Richard Shelby: Did not serve
    JC Watts: Did not serve
    Vin Weber: Did not serve
    Paul Wolfowitz: Did not serve
    Pundits, Preachers, and Judges

    Bill Bennett: Did not serve
    Wolf Blitzer: Did not serve
    Pat Buchanan: Did not serve
    William Buckley: Army in WWII
    Charlie Daniels: Did not serve
    Lou Dobbs: Did not serve
    Paul Gigot: Did not serve
    Sean Hannity: Did not serve
    Bill Kristol: Did not serve
    Jim Lehrer: U.S. Marine Corps
    Rush Limbaugh: Did not serve
    Chris Matthews: Did not serve
    Michael Medved: Did not serve
    Ted Nugent: Did not serve
    Bill O'Reilly: Did not serve
    Dan Rather: Army Reserve
    Ralph Reed: Did not serve
    Michael Savage: Did not serve
    Antonin Scalia: Did not serve
    Kenneth Starr: Did not serve
    Clarence Thomas: Did not serve
    John Wayne: Did not serve
    George Will: Did not serve
    I never met a warrior that was a chickenshit. I've met plenty of warhawks that were. Wonder how that circumstance holds up in the chickenshit department?

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