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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    I think he sees it, and he may be the only one in the race that does see it.
    How hard and deep he may drive to destroy it if elected is nothing anybody can know now but he is quite likely to do more since he sees more of it than any of the others. -Tyr
    Trump is destroying the right. It's just that simple. He's a divider. All of you angry folk enamoured with him aren't thinking past the part where he turns off independents and moderates and THOSE are the people who decide who is President. Not the far right nor the far left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Trump is destroying the right. It's just that simple. He's a divider. All of you angry folk enamoured with him aren't thinking past the part where he turns off independents and moderates and THOSE are the people who decide who is President. Not the far right nor the far left.
    That may have once been true about winning the independent votes but Romney learned it WASN'T TRUE!

    Why Winning The Independent Vote Can Actually Be A Bad Thing

    Brett LoGiurato

    Nov. 12, 2012, 5:03 PM


    In the final days of the 2012 presidential campaign, Mitt Romney's political director
    Rich Beeson was steadfast about his candidate's chances in key swing state Ohio.

    "Whoever wins independent voters in Ohio, wins Ohio," Beeson said on "Fox News Sunday,"
    two days before the election.

    He was, of course, wrong. Romney won self-identified Independents in Ohio by a overwhelming
    10 points, according to exit polls, but lost the state to President Barack Obama by 2 points.

    A similar trend was seen across much of the country — Romney won among Independents by 5 points,
    50-45, but lost to Obama, 51-48. The numbers illustrate why winning the Independent vote in
    pre-election polls isn't necessarily a telltale sign of victory, as many political strategists
    have suggested.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nothing is quite as good as proof in the pudding my friend.. -Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    That may have once been true about winning the independent votes but Romney learned it WASN'T TRUE!



    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nothing is quite as good as proof in the pudding my friend.. -Tyr
    There's no proof in the pudding except that he's all mouth and turns a LOT of people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    There's no proof in the pudding except that he's all mouth and turns a LOT of people off.
    THAT MAY BE(POINT TAKEN) BUT THE NUMBERS CITING HIS OVERWHELMING WIN OF THE INDEPENDENT VOTE DO NOT LIE.
    AS ITS HERALDED AS BEING THE ONLY WAY TO WIN --BUT IT DID NOT WIN, DID IT?
    So another dem lie the Republicans believed came back to bite them in the ass, Romney lost.
    To me that just reinforces why the truth is so important.. -Tyr
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