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    Default Was Muhammad A War Lord Who Used Violence To Convert People?

    I have often thought that to be true-

    What was the most violent thing Jesus did? Oh yes throw over a table
    http://biblehub.com/matthew/21-12.htm

    Jesus says not to stone and Muhammad said yes to stoning?

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    Didn't God flood the earth once? That was not exactly a peaceful solution to things.

    Jesus lived a peaceful life, but he had his aggressive moments. Like Luke 12:49-52

    49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Didn't God flood the earth once? That was not exactly a peaceful solution to things.

    Jesus lived a peaceful life, but he had his aggressive moments. Like Luke 12:49-52

    49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.
    WTF does this have to do with the subject? Perhaps you can start a new thread about war/violence within christianity? All you ever do is instantly condemn something else if you read something you don't like. Try sticking on topic and maybe refute the things you don't like. Your shtick doing this crap is tiresome.
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    The original poster brought up the comparison of Muhammed to Jesus and a comparison of religion. I was responding to his comparison of religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    The original poster brought up the comparison of Muhammed to Jesus and a comparison of religion. I was responding to his comparison of religions.
    Well my bad then if that's the angle Christie was looking for, but I 'assumed' it was about Muhammed based on the thread title and link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post

    Muhammed and Aisha. I don't care about cultural or time differences and I couldn't care less about tons of excuses. He should have been stoned to death for sexual assault and/or rape of a minor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Muhammed and Aisha. I don't care about cultural or time differences and I couldn't care less about tons of excuses. He should have been stoned to death for sexual assault and/or rape of a minor.




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    The culture is the same...Nothing has changed....Kill infidels (If they don't Convert) remains the same also..abuse women and children...remains the same...Mohammad's book of peace remains the same...and the violence then...continues today... and remains the same...



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    Typical response from the left... deflect deflect deflect and never talk about the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Typical response from the left... deflect deflect deflect and never talk about the matter.
    Well, whatever you do, and regardless of your stance - don't attempt discussions about Iraq or Afghanistan with any relation to Obama. He has nothing to do with either you will find out, it's solely a Bush thing. For that fact, pretty much anything shitty about Obama is GWB's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Well, whatever you do, and regardless of your stance - don't attempt discussions about Iraq or Afghanistan with any relation to Obama. He has nothing to do with either you will find out, it's solely a Bush thing. For that fact, pretty much anything shitty about Obama is GWB's fault.
    I thought we were talking about religion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    I thought we were talking about religion?
    My point being, if you wish the engage discussion with Gabby, be forewarned that she will do just that, change the subject. If you have a thread about Islam, she'll come back and change the subject somehow to Christianity. If you have a thread about Obama, expect it to be blamed on Bush.
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    To address the proper question of whether Muhammad was a war lord, I decided to my neighbor. Since she has read the Quran in Arabic.

    Like Jesus, Muhammad was the leader of a people who were often persecuted for their beliefs. In this case the Meccans.
    As in the case with Jesus and Christians, Muhammad did not lead his people into battle. He was more of a spiritual leader. The Meccans fought several battles with Muslims. Muhammad was never in control of an army. Muslims often took his spiritual guidance into battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    To address the proper question of whether Muhammad was a war lord, I decided to my neighbor. Since she has read the Quran in Arabic.

    Like Jesus, Muhammad was the leader of a people who were often persecuted for their beliefs. In this case the Meccans.
    As in the case with Jesus and Christians, Muhammad did not lead his people into battle. He was more of a spiritual leader. The Meccans fought several battles with Muslims. Muhammad was never in control of an army. Muslims often took his spiritual guidance into battle.
    So Muhammad was never involved in any battles? Did you read the link or what?
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    I did read the link. I do not consider Wikopedia is a valid source of information, since anyone can post and/or edit an entry.

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