TAKING OUT THE TRASH: 263 Terrorist Targets Destroyed By Russians

[Gunny]

You cannot class obliterating whole cities as 'a good day for america' it is a good day for both sides that the war ended because of it but the bombs themselves were not good.

Came in the middle so I'm not sure what "good" is or who said it. The bombs were a means to an end. What was it Yamamoto said about waking a sleeping giant? Don't start something you can't finish.

There's nothing "good" about war. But some of us fight them and we're good at what we do.

[Drummond]

Necessary yes but to call it a good day is wrong.

'Good' is relative.

If the Japanese Emperor had surrendered early enough, he could've spared both Hiroshima and Nagasaki the fate that they suffered, saving HOW many lives ? Now .. the Emperor would never have regarded surrender as a 'good' thing .. but, his failure to act in time did its own bit to doom the populations of both of those cities.

You seem keen to hint at blame applying to Americans, but remember that the beginning of their involvement in WWII began through an unprovoked attack on a military target in American territory by the Japanese. Theirs was an enthusiasm for starting that warfare, and for earning the death tolls that followed.

You speak of the 85 year old Japanese woman who had her family killed ? Just beforehand, what was her extent of enthusiasm for supporting Japan's war effort ? What would HER thoughts have been, had something comparable happened to a city of a country she saw as her enemy ??

Enemies are enemies, Christie. Your enemy would wish upon you great harm, which is what makes that enemy earn the name !

And, besides .. wars do inevitably involve deaths of noncombatants, who some might call 'innocents'. It's just a fact of life (.. or death). The Japanese people you're so inclined to pity WERE committed to a war effort which, by its nature, couldn't help but kill.

Perhaps in your next post on this thread, you could post something showing sympathy to the victims of the Pearl Harbour atrocity ?

[Gunny]

'Good' is relative.

If the Japanese Emperor had surrendered early enough, he could've spared both Hiroshima and Nagasaki the fate that they suffered, saving HOW many lives ? Now .. the Emperor would never have regarded surrender as a 'good' thing .. but, his failure to act in time did its own bit to doom the populations of both of those cities.

You seem keen to hint at blame applying to Americans, but remember that the beginning of their involvement in WWII began through an unprovoked attack on a military target in American territory by the Japanese. Theirs was an enthusiasm for starting that warfare, and for earning the death tolls that followed.

You speak of the 85 year old Japanese woman who had her family killed ? Just beforehand, what was her extent of enthusiasm for supporting Japan's war effort ? What would HER thoughts have been, had something comparable happened to a city of a country she saw as her enemy ??

Enemies are enemies, Christie. Your enemy would wish upon you great harm, which is what makes that enemy earn the name !

And, besides .. wars do inevitably involve deaths of noncombatants, who some might call 'innocents'. It's just a fact of life (.. or death). The Japanese people you're so inclined to pity WERE committed to a war effort which, by its nature, couldn't help but kill.

Perhaps in your next post on this thread, you could post something showing sympathy to the victims of the Pearl Harbour atrocity ?

The people and the Emperor were not to blame. The military that bastardized bushido were. They took control of the government. When a military takes control of a government guess what's coming next? They have to justify their existence. And Japan has few natural resources unless you like fish and rice.

I don't know the exact reason for them attacking Pearl Harbor. I think military and it was about as dumb a decision as Hitler attacking Russia.

[NightTrain]

You cannot class obliterating whole cities as 'a good day for america' it is a good day for both sides that the war ended because of it but the bombs themselves were not good.

I can, and I do.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The Russian air force carried out 81 sorties hitting 263 terrorist targets over 2 days alone. Missions were carried out all over Syria hitting different terror groups Al Nusra/Islamic Front/ISIS



A spokesman said in a statement





Su-25 bombers targeted a warehouse belonging to Al Nusra which allegedly had anti tank weapons (most likely from Saudi Arabia).

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Christie Brinkley again.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

You cannot class obliterating whole cities as 'a good day for america' it is a good day for both sides that the war ended because of it but the bombs themselves were not good.

Yes, I can and I do. Any time the enemy during war time is destroyed its a good day!
Additionally--they( the Japs) had it coming for their sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.
War is not a philosophical debate--its all about killing to survive my friend.
They gored the bull (US)--they got the damn horns!!
BOTH OF THEM!

And that justice forever changed their nation/government.
War is ALL ABOUT - AN eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth , in my view amigo .. -Tyr

[Gunny]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Christie Brinkley again.

The fact is, it was estimated it would cost 1M American lives to invade Mainland Japan. They WILL fight to the death. I care about their cities being blown up about as much as I'd care if we dropped a nuke on Tehran.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The fact is, it was estimated it would cost 1M American lives to invade Mainland Japan. They WILL fight to the death. I care about their cities being blown up about as much as I'd care if we dropped a nuke on Tehran.

I care about as much about two Jap cities getting incinerated during WW2 as I do THE CORE OF AN APPLE THAT I TOSS IN THE GARBAGE CAN.
SOBS had it coming to them......
Obviously, my Native American blood seems to see things in a destroy the enemy kind of way--talk all that goody goody peace shit after they are utterly destroyed and begging for peace!
After WW2--we went too damn easy on Japan and on Germany IMHO.,
------ AS WE SPENT OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS AND SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MOST OF THAT BACK IN SOME WAY, WITH IT DULY NOTED THAT NO AMOUNT OF MONEY ON EARTH COULD REPAY US FOR THE LIVES WE LOST! TYR

[Gunny]

I care about as much about two Jap cities getting incinerated during WW2 as I do THE CORE OF AN APPLE THAT I TOSS IN THE GARBAGE CAN.
SOBS had it coming to them......
Obviously, my Native American blood seems to see things in a destroy the enemy kind of way--talk all that goody goody peace shit after they are utterly destroyed and begging for peace!
After WW2--we went too damn easy on Japan and on Germany IMHO.,
------ AS WE SPENT OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS AND SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MOST OF THAT BACK IN SOME WAY, WITH IT DULY NOTED THAT NO AMOUNT OF MONEY ON EARTH COULD REPAY US FOR THE LIVES WE LOST! TYR

If you ain't playing to win ... don't come play,

[Gunny]