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    Default Mormon Church Set To Ban Gays and Their Children

    Gay and lesbian Mormons and their supporters are reeling over a rule change by church officials that says members in same-sex marriages can be kicked out and their children are to be barred from being baptized unless they disavow homosexual relationships.

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints disseminated the handbook changes this week to local church leaders around the world. The goal was to provide clarity to lay leaders who run congregations, church spokesman Eric Hawkins said.

    But the revisions triggered a wave of anger, confusion and sadness for a growing faction of LGBT-supportive Mormons who had been buoyed in recent years by church leaders' calls for more compassion and understanding for LGBT members.

    "It feels like they are extending an olive branch and hitting you with it," said Wendy Montgomery, who is Mormon and has a 17-year-old gay son. "It's like this emotional whiplash."

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Mor.../06/id/700998/
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    A Mormon split coming?
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    Sucks for people that are emotionally invested in their religion to discover it hates them, but it's hardly surprising.
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    ... their religion ... it hates them...
    Some people hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Sucks for people that are emotionally invested in their religion to discover it hates them, but it's hardly surprising.
    What is surprising is you don't treat Islam in the same manner, when Muslims would just as soon cut your pole smoking head off.

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    Effing awesome!!! Good for liberty!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Gay and lesbian Mormons and their supporters are reeling over a rule change by church officials that says members in same-sex marriages can be kicked out and their children are to be barred from being baptized unless they disavow homosexual relationships.

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints disseminated the handbook changes this week to local church leaders around the world. The goal was to provide clarity to lay leaders who run congregations, church spokesman Eric Hawkins said.

    But the revisions triggered a wave of anger, confusion and sadness for a growing faction of LGBT-supportive Mormons who had been buoyed in recent years by church leaders' calls for more compassion and understanding for LGBT members.

    "It feels like they are extending an olive branch and hitting you with it," said Wendy Montgomery, who is Mormon and has a 17-year-old gay son. "It's like this emotional whiplash."

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Mor.../06/id/700998/
    Oh my. How politically incorrect of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    What is surprising is you don't treat Islam in the same manner, when Muslims would just as soon cut your pole smoking head off.
    Muslims threaten to kill him if he doesn't obey, do there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    What is surprising is you don't treat Islam in the same manner, when Muslims would just as soon cut your pole smoking head off.
    Wow, that is lame on multiple levels. Let's take a moment to break this down, shall we? First off, we have the assumption by you, a flatly incorrect one, that Noir wouldn't be saying the same of Islam. Given his view of being an atheist that views the vast majority of religions in the same light, this is just laughably wrong.

    Next we have the assumptive decision that he must be gay to be against this, but you know who else was against people being banned from temples? Jesus. Hookers, tax collectors, whatever your life, all are welcome in God's house. Period. No exceptions. Who has God decreed is barred from so much as listening to the word of God?

    Now, Noir was wrong on a point. They should be surprised, because the Mormon church has generally stayed out of the whole debate this entire time, and much as we might make fun of them for stuff like the magic underwear, they're generally the most accepting.
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