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    It was a tragic case of friendly fire. The Liberty was a CIA boat parked on the edge of an active war zone gathering signal intelligence and was mistaken for an Egyptian boat by Israeli pilots.

    We've been over all this a few times before, though. A simple search here on this site brings up those threads.

    Conspiracy nutters love it, but as usual they're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    It was a tragic case of friendly fire. The Liberty was a CIA boat parked on the edge of an active war zone gathering signal intelligence and was mistaken for an Egyptian boat by Israeli pilots.

    We've been over all this a few times before, though. A simple search here on this site brings up those threads.

    Conspiracy nutters love it, but as usual they're wrong.
    It may have very well been. I wasn't there. I CAN tell you this ... decision time comes around, you make one. I don't second guess combat decisions unless they are criminal acts. Israel has always claimed it was a mistake. Barring anymore evidence than conjecture on the part of conspiracy theorists, I'm good with it.

    What purpose would it serve Israel to attack the US 4 years after we kicked the world's ass? Bengurion was a strategic and tactical genius. I don't think it happened on purpose. Like I said, guess what little grey boats look like from the sky? Little grey boats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    It was a tragic case of friendly fire. The Liberty was a CIA boat parked on the edge of an active war zone gathering signal intelligence and was mistaken for an Egyptian boat by Israeli pilots.

    We've been over all this a few times before, though. A simple search here on this site brings up those threads.

    Conspiracy nutters love it, but as usual they're wrong.
    You are in error my friend. .
    The Israeli's knew it was us.. They deliberately hit that ship to send a message(AS WE WERE SPYING ON THEM TOO) and guess what, they won, because instead of shooting their attack out of the skies our government let our guys get shot up.
    Diplomacy in action negates rational thinking IMHO..
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    The Bush family rigged the boat to explode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    You are in error my friend. .
    The Israeli's knew it was us.. They deliberately hit that ship to send a message(AS WE WERE SPYING ON THEM TOO) and guess what, they won, because instead of shooting their attack out of the skies our government let our guys get shot up.
    Diplomacy in action negates rational thinking IMHO..
    HAVE TO TAKE OFF NOW TO DO CRAP ALL DAY, WILL RETURN TONIGHT TO POST. ---Tyr
    Respectfully, try putting things in context. We tried to stop the Jews. You get between me and my one and only option? WE created the situation. We gave the Jews their homeland back because nobody wanted them. We sit around and accept Indians and ragheads NOW, but no one wanted Jews back then. We gave them a piece of dirt in the desert. They took it and defended it.

    WE were NOT their allies at the time. If I'm fighting for my existence I'm blowing you up and I don't care who you are. But I disagree they knew whose ship it was.

    Now turn this around ... if you thought some raghead was going to hurt you or your family, you going to shoot or ask questions? Don't know bout you but I got an itchy trigger finger. And the way shit's going in this country NOW? It's getting itchier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Respectfully, try putting things in context. We tried to stop the Jews. You get between me and my one and only option? WE created the situation. We gave the Jews their homeland back because nobody wanted them. We sit around and accept Indians and ragheads NOW, but no one wanted Jews back then. We gave them a piece of dirt in the desert. They took it and defended it.

    WE were NOT their allies at the time. If I'm fighting for my existence I'm blowing you up and I don't care who you are. But I disagree they knew whose ship it was.

    Now turn this around ... if you thought some raghead was going to hurt you or your family, you going to shoot or ask questions? Don't know bout you but I got an itchy trigger finger. And the way shit's going in this country NOW? It's getting itchier.
    Holocaust was and still is in Israel's rear view mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    You are in error my friend. .
    The Israeli's knew it was us.. They deliberately hit that ship to send a message(AS WE WERE SPYING ON THEM TOO) and guess what, they won, because instead of shooting their attack out of the skies our government let our guys get shot up.
    Diplomacy in action negates rational thinking IMHO..
    HAVE TO TAKE OFF NOW TO DO CRAP ALL DAY, WILL RETURN TONIGHT TO POST. ---Tyr

    No way.

    We had that boat parked there feeding the Israelis intelligence. How do you think they knew where to hit them? Our SR-71s, U2s and boats like the Liberty all gathering Intel... that was a large part of why Israel kicked so much ass in the Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War.

    That's not to take away from the outstanding job they did kicking everyone's asses - that was an outstanding feat. But we were helping them mightily with the Intel while the Soviets were helping the Arabs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Holocaust was and still is in Israel's rear view mirror.
    I'm not a Holocaust supporter. I think the numbers are exaggerated. BUT ... it still happened. I think Jews are stupid frankly. They all vote Democrat when the Republicans are the ones that support their homeland. Just how dumb can you be?

    And feel free to toss blacks in. Dems have been promising them a free ride for HOW long? They haven't gotten shit but STILL believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    The Bush family rigged the boat to explode.
    Oh no. Not another vast right wing conspiracy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Oh no. Not another vast right wing conspiracy!
    And we know YOU are behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    And we know YOU are behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    I see how you are. And I thought you liked me. So before you started waking he baby every day you blew up a warship. Russ must be one understanding guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I see how you are. And I thought you liked me. So before you started waking he baby every day you blew up a warship. Russ must be one understanding guy.

    LOl, I guess he admires my diverse talents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Excuse me 35 men died on the USS Liberty? Don't their lives matter then?
    You are quite wrong this time.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    From going to a memorial - directly - to wanting to discuss "false flag" operations as the first ship to want to memorialize? If you repeat yourself, so be it, I'll let him back in the thread, but I disagree with the intent.
    Keep it.

    You are right.

    Wrong church, wrong pew.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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