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    Default PUTIN: ISIS Funded By 30 Countries Including G20 Members

    Many political commentators in the US and the UK are asking the question "why are countries funding ISIS?" and "why is the west not stopping them?" (I think they know the answer they just want to keep their jobs).

    Putin said he knows of 40 countries including G20 members who have or are funding ISIS

    I provided examples based on our data on the financing of different Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) units by private individuals. This money, as we have established, comes from 40 countries and, there are some of the G20 members among them
    I’ve shown our colleagues photos taken from space and from aircraft which clearly demonstrate the scale of the illegal trade in oil and petroleum product
    The motorcade of refueling vehicles stretched for dozens of kilometers, so that from a height of 4,000 to 5,000 meters they stretch beyond the horizon
    Putin really is a thorn in the side of the internationalists.

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    this is the kinda CRAP that shows the whole "war" BS!

    once again we have the best enemies money can buy.

    I've pointed this out before. there NO WAY for ISIS to be a the huge threat they are without MAJOR CASH, WEAPONS and SUPPLIES. (not to mention training)
    and protection for the free flow of all of it.there's just NO way all of Europe, the U.S., Israel, and our "allies" in the M.E. don't have a hand in it.
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    Putin should get his own house in order before he starts accusing others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Putin should get his own house in order before he starts accusing others.
    Mind explaining?
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    Big deal, so he said private individuals donated from over 40 countries. Should that be a surprise? For all we know that could be muslims in every country. And yes, we knew funding came from the oil. They've been selling off oil and making like $1 million dollar per day on the black market. None of this is even "new" news.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Big deal, so he said private individuals donated from over 40 countries. Should that be a surprise? For all we know that could be muslims in every country. And yes, we knew funding came from the oil. They've been selling off oil and making like $1 million dollar per day on the black market. None of this is even "new" news.
    Selling the oil to Turkey yet there is no outrage at them funding terrorism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Selling the oil to Turkey yet there is no outrage at them funding terrorism?
    What lack of outrage? Everyone knows that Turkey is full of scumbags. Buying oil from terrorists is no surprise.

    Not much worse than commies funding terrorists acting as leaders in Syria.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    What lack of outrage? Everyone knows that Turkey is full of scumbags. Buying oil from terrorists is no surprise.

    Not much worse than commies funding terrorists acting as leaders in Syria.
    Yet the US acts like Turkey is fighting terrorism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Yet the US acts like Turkey is fighting terrorism?
    And what has the UK done about it?
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    And what has the UK done about it?
    Nothing as well. I only mention the US because the internationalists are using your nation as its military muscle to wage conflicts to benefit their aims not the aims of the US people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christie Brinkley View Post
    Nothing as well. I only mention the US because the internationalists are using your nation as its military muscle to wage conflicts to benefit their aims not the aims of the US people.
    You whined that you wanted your own UK subforum, but then spend time pointing fingers at the US. How about spending some time in the forum I made for you? You can point out all of the cowardly ways of your country, and all of these things you say they do "as well", but never post for whatever reason. You're either one of the most intellectually dishonest people I've come across, or you spend half your time trolling.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    You whined that you wanted your own UK subforum, but then spend time pointing fingers at the US. How about spending some time in the forum I made for you? You can point out all of the cowardly ways of your country, and all of these things you say they do "as well", but never post for whatever reason. You're either one of the most intellectually dishonest people I've come across, or you spend half your time trolling.
    Since I am on a forum of predominantly American members you tend to talk about America. Sure I would be pointing out things that the UK government does but the threads I made a few weeks ago have few replies as many don't have a great knowledge of UK politics.
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    "big deal"? really? sheesh. YES it's a big deal.

    if we are so concerned about the growth of ISIS and are ready to go flying off to "fight" ISIS before they come here to ''kill us all',
    and we can pinpoint the funders? Doesn't it make sense that we target the funders and suppliers. That's real and legit PRE-EMPTIVE striking.
    Maybe by BLOCKING or SEIZING their funds. Arresting them and bringing them before a U.S. or International court?
    Choking the supply lines in our Ally's country before it reaches the enemy? Staving the enemy.

    Wouldn't that be MORE cost effective than sending troops to die and planes to fight the terrorist AFTER they are fed, clothed, housed, armed and fueled up?

    you folks keep ignoring the problem and the opportunity.
    AND/OR the complicity of the U.S. and our so called Allies.

    You ignore it or just want to attack the messengers rather than the ISIS enablers. WHO EVER they may be.
    why is that? What are you defending here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    "big deal"? really? sheesh. YES it's a big deal.

    if we are so concerned about the growth if ISIS and are ready to go flying off to "fight" ISIS before they come here to kill us all
    and we can pinpoint the funders? Doesn't it make sense that we target the funders and suppliers. That's real and legit PRE-EMPTIVE striking.
    Maybe by BLOCKING or SEIZING their funds. Arresting them and bringing them before a U.S. or International court?
    Choking the supply lines in our Ally's country before it reaches the enemy? Staving the enemy.

    Wouldn't that be MORE cost effective than sending troops to die and planes to fight the terrorist AFTER they are fed, clothed, housed, armed and fueled up?


    you folks keep ignoring the problem and the opportunity.
    AND/OR the complicity of the U.S. and our so called Allies.

    You ignore it or just want to attack the messengers rather than the ISIS enablers. WHO EVER they may be.
    why is that? What are you defending here?
    And Russia can supply this EXACT list then, make it easy for intel agencies around the world to go in and take out those making donations. That should be easy.

    Specifically - which countries specifically - did these donations come from? And no, I'm not going back to re-read the entire thing, surely you can supply that little nugget for me.
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    How about for a start asking our NATO and M.E. allies like Turkey and "good friends" the Saudis to stop the supply lines? those can be seen from satellite photos and by asking the Kurd who are TRYING to stop them.

    We've already given the Turks and/or sold them BILLIONS in arms, planes and training.



    ISIS supply lines FYI reminder
    ...ISIS’ supply lines run precisely where Syrian and Iraqi air power cannot go. To the north and into NATO-member Turkey, and to the southwest into US allies Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Beyond these borders exists a logistical network that spans a region including both Eastern Europe and North Africa.Terrorists and weapons left over from NATO’s intervention in Libya in 2011 were promptly sent to Turkey and then onto Syria – coordinated by US State Department officials and intelligence agencies in Benghazi – a terrorist hotbed for decades.The London Telegraph would report in their 2013 article, “CIA ‘running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked’,” that:[CNN] said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.
    Weapons have also come from Eastern Europe, with the New York Times reporting in 2013 in their article, “Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With Aid From C.I.A.,” that:From offices at secret locations, American intelligence officers have helped the Arab governments shop for weapons, including a large procurement from Croatia, and have vetted rebel commanders and groups to determine who should receive the weapons as they arrive, according to American officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.
    And while Western media sources continuously refer to ISIS and other factions operating under the banner of Al Qaeda as “rebels” or “moderates,” it is clear that if billions of dollars in weapons were truly going to “moderates,” they, not ISIS would be dominating the battlefield.Recent revelations have revealed that as early as 2012 the United States Department of Defense not only anticipated the creation of a “Salafist Principality” straddling Syria and Iraq precisely where ISIS now exists, it welcomed it eagerly and contributed to the circumstances required to bring it about.Just How Extensive Are ISIS’ Supply Lines? While many across the West play willfully ignorant as to where ISIS truly gets their supplies from in order to maintain its impressive fighting capacity, some journalists have traveled to the region and have video taped and reported on the endless convoys of trucks supplying the terrorist army.Were these trucks traveling to and from factories in seized ISIS territory deep within Syrian and Iraqi territory? No. They were traveling from deep within Turkey, crossing the Syrian border with absolute impunity, and headed on their way with the implicit protection of nearby Turkish military forces. Attempts by Syria to attack these convoys and the terrorists flowing in with them have been met by Turkish air defenses.Germany’s international broadcaster Deutsche Welle (DW) published the first video report from a major Western media outlet illustrating that ISIS is supplied not by “black market oil” or “hostage ransoms” but billions of dollars worth of supplies carried into Syria across NATO member Turkey’s borders via hundreds of trucks a day.

    The report titled, “‘IS’ supply channels through Turkey,” confirms what has been reported by geopolitical analysts since at least as early as 2011 – that ISIS subsides on immense, multi-national state sponsorship, including, obviously, Turkey itself.Looking at maps of ISIS-held territory and reading action reports of its offensive maneuvers throughout the region and even beyond, one might imagine hundreds of trucks a day would be required to maintain this level of fighting capacity. One could imagine similar convoys crossing into Iraq from Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Similar convoys are likely passing into Syria from Jordan.In all, considering the realities of logistics and their timeless importance to military campaigns throughout human history, there is no other plausible explanation to ISIS’s ability to wage war within Syria and Iraq besides immense resources being channeled to it from abroad.If an army marches on its stomach, and ISIS’ stomachs are full of NATO and Persian Gulf State supplies, ISIS will continue to march long and hard. The key to breaking the back of ISIS, is breaking the back of its supply lines. To do that however, and precisely why the conflict has dragged on for so long, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and others would have to eventually secure the borders and force ISIS to fight within Turkish, Jordanian, and Saudi territory – a difficult scenario to implement as nations like Turkey have created defacto buffer zones within Syrian territory which would require a direct military confrontation with Turkey itself to eliminate.....
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/logisti...s-guns/5454726

    the info here is sourced back to mainstream news and gov't docs .

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/wo...-aid.html?_r=1
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-attacked.html
    http://journal-neo.org/2015/05/25/wa...tors-in-syria/
    http://www.dw.com/en/is-supply-chann...ey/av-18091048
    Interviews with Trukish truckers, Kerdish fighters and others talking about shipments of hundreds of trucks with goods weapons and fighters crossing the boarder and suppling ISIS and the Trukish officials -high and low -doing NOTHING to stop it.

    And here's more
    http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials...ase-in-jordan/
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/documen...tate-14-812-2/
    the DOD doc that states the Western position to work with all groups


    AMY GOODMAN: “The Wall Street Journal recently revealed new details about how Prince Bandar bin Sultan al-Saud, Saudi’s former ambassador to the United States, is leading the effort to prop up the Syrian rebels. The Wall Street Journal reports Prince Bandar has been jetting from covert command centers near the Syrian front lines to the Élysée Palace in Paris and the Kremlin in Moscow seeking to undermine the outside machine. The journal also reports intelligence agents from Saudi Arabia, the US, Jordan and other allied States are working at a secret joint operation center in Jordan to train and arm handpicked Syrian rebels.

    ADAM ENTOUS: Last summer they be created this operation center, and what what is happening now is you have actually more CIA officers now there at that base than there are Saudi personnel. They fly weapons in. The Saudis are the ones who are doing the bulk of this. They buy the weapons largely in places like Eastern Europe, and to a certain extent Libya, and they bring into this base, which has a landing strip and store houses for the weapons to be stored. They, the Saudis and the Jordanians draw on the defectors, largely from the Syrian military which already have a good degree of military training, and they’re brought to this base where different intel-agencies train them, and the Americans are there,the Brits are there, the French are there, the Saudis, UAE is there. And then they train them and then they send them into the fight but very, very slowly this process has been built up over the last couple of months.”

    (Source: | Time Reference: 34:11



    Originally Posted by Fox news
    LT. GENERAL MCINERNEY:
    “Syria we backed, I believe in some cases, some of the wrong people, and not in the right part of the Free Syrian Army and that’s a little confusing to people, so I’ve always maintained and go back quite some time that we were backing the wrong types.
    I think it’s gonna turn out maybe this weekend, in a new special that Brett Baer’s gonna have Friday, it’s gonna show some of those weapons from Benghazi ended up in the hands of ISIS.
    So we helped build ISIS. Now there’s a danger there and I’m with you.”
    (Source: | Time Reference: 38:19)

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