Interviews with captured ISIS...

[revelarts]

In your first paragraph, sure enough, you HAVE done an FJ and asserted they're human beings.
In your second paragraph, you have provided strong evidence of the exact opposite.
I suggest you abandon what your comrades have taught you is true, and instead be fully guided by what you see, and learn, from the evidence of your own eyes !

Have to define "human being" though. They ARE homo sapien.

Exactly.
Human

The idea that Judeo-Christian Western idealism is "human" is junk. We're a society, not a race.

but Gunnys idea of "human" as society is junk

All Human beings, homo sapiens, are created in God's image. All have body minds and souls/spirits that will live forever either in bliss or damnation.
Animals have no souls/spirit and will unlikely live beyond death and have no rewards or punishments.
unrepentant radical muslims will receive their rewards. But it won't be virgins.

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[Gunny]

Exactly.
Human



but Gunnys idea of "human" as society is junk

All Human beings, homo sapiens, are created in God's image. All have body minds and souls/spirits that will live forever either in bliss or damnation.
Animals have no souls/spirit and will unlikely live beyond death and have no rewards or punishments.
unrepentant radical muslims will receive their rewards. But it won't be virgins.

.

And? My idea of human is if you want to shove your idealism down everyone else's throats, get the fuck out. Human beings who violates God's Law have no intrensic right to live. They have a right to salvation. Or to go to Hell..

[Drummond]

Have to define "human being" though. They ARE homo sapien. The idea that Judeo-Christian Western idealism is "human" is junk. We're a society, not a race.

The fact that people committing war against noncombatants are animals is a given. But THAT too comes from chivalry. "Meet me on the field of honor." Sign ME up for THAT one. What these asshats are doing is playing to media attention. Been a week since Paris, right? Media's STILL at it.

So WHO wins? Look at who is getting all the attention.

I find it reasonably easy to define 'human being'.

Human beings possess humanity, and in a strong enough measure to be irrevocably guided by it. Islamic terrorists not only show no trace of that being true for them, but the OPPOSITE is true. They exult in their savagery. They glory in it. How can you be human if you don't possess human feeling ?

A terrorist, obviously, deserves no human rights. If given any, do they appreciate what they're given, or do they just regard it as weakness on behalf of their captors ? Do they even have any understanding of any of it ?

Christians love life. Muslim terrorists love death (and mete it out in generous quantities at every opportunity). What does that tell you ?

[Drummond]

Exactly.
Human

To be devoid of all humanity is to prove non-humanity. Not the fact of it. The ABSENCE of it.

Genetic makeup, of itself, proves nothing. I can take a DNA sample, put it in a petrie dish. The genetic makeup of the sample would be identical to a human being, but it wouldn't BE a human being. Try walking up to that petrie dish, and asking its contents for proof of its humanity. See what answer you get ....

... and the DNA sample would NOT be going out into the world and planting bombs. Yes, the DNA sample would not be THAT subhuman.

All Human beings, homo sapiens, are created in God's image. All have body minds and souls/spirits that will live forever either in bliss or damnation.
Animals have no souls/spirit and will unlikely live beyond death and have no rewards or punishments.
unrepentant radical muslims will receive their rewards. But it won't be virgins.
.

Quantify for me the 'soul', or 'spirit', of a Muslim terrorist savage. You could correctly call one a possessor of a form of intelligence. You could point to their acts of subhumanity. You'd fail to prove any capacity for human empathy, however.

[revelarts]

To be devoid of all humanity is to prove non-humanity. Not the fact of it. The ABSENCE of it.

Genetic makeup, of itself, proves nothing. I can take a DNA sample, put it in a petrie dish. The genetic makeup of the sample would be identical to a human being, but it wouldn't BE a human being. Try walking up to that petrie dish, and asking its contents for proof of its humanity. See what answer you get ....
... and the DNA sample would NOT be going out into the world and planting bombs. Yes, the DNA sample would not be THAT subhuman.
Quantify for me the 'soul', or 'spirit', of a Muslim terrorist savage. You could correctly call one a possessor of a form of intelligence. You could point to their acts of subhumanity. You'd fail to prove any capacity for human empathy, however.

I get your sentiment but for what it's worth it technically inaccurate.
Humanity and empathy make defines Humane. A positive characteristic of SOME humans but not all.

Cambridge dictionary
Human:
=a ​person
=of or ​typical of ​people:
=a man, woman, or ​child:

Humane:
=showing ​kindness, ​care, and ​sympathy toward ​others, esp. those who are ​suffering:

the synonyms and antonyms of humane make the point well

<dl style="color: rgb(34, 54, 69); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><dt>Synonyms</dt><dd>beneficent, benevolent, benignant, compassionate, good-hearted, kind, kindhearted, kindly, softhearted, sympathetic, tender, tenderhearted, warmhearted</dd></dl><dl style="color: rgb(34, 54, 69); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><dt>Antonyms</dt><dd>atrocious, barbaric, barbarous, bestial, brutal, brute, brutish, callous, cold-blooded, cruel, fiendish, hard-hearted, heartless, inhuman, inhumane, insensate, sadistic, savage, truculent, uncompassionate, unfeeling, unkind, unkindly, unsympathetic, vicious, wanton</dd>



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"Quantify for me the 'soul', or 'spirit',..."
you can stop right there. That's already above my pay grade Drummond.

[PixieStix]

Who are they, what are they, and where do they come from???

“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,^[a]
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
¹² He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward^[b] all his brothers.”

[Jeff]

Just getting an idea of what ISIS is made of.
They are all human beings. that's self evident. no need for videos to prove that to most people.

I was going to post another longer interview with a guy that killed over 50 people but after about 60 secs i had to turn him off he turned my stomach with his casual laughter and the like.

NO, they are not human beings. Human beings don't set others on fire, they don't run power drills through children as their parents watch, Killem all and let Allah sort em out.

[fj1200]

What was your reason for posting this ? Are you trying to do a 'Margaret Thatcher', and portray this scum as human beings ?

That 17 year old 'boy', who's suddenly and very conveniently 'so sorry' for what he planned to do. Was he only sorry because he'd been caught ? And, I heard no explanation for how it was that he had no sense of right or wrong, or any sense of sheer humanity, that told him to STOP, to never go that far.

You've already suggested that the terrorist Nazis were not subhuman because they expressed regret for their terrorist actions.

[fj1200]

Human beings who violates God's Law have no intrensic right to live. They have a right to salvation. Or to go to Hell..

Not sure what you mean by God's Law but those who violate the Natural Right of life have no right to live.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

not sure what you mean by god's law but those who violate the natural right of life have no right to live.

not sure what you mean by god's law

^^^^ now why does that not shock me in the least????-tyr

[Gunny]

Not sure what you mean by God's Law but those who violate the Natural Right of life have no right to live.

You have no "natural" right to life. You have a right to fight for every breath you take. Every mouthful of food. Every moment of shelter.

[fj1200]

^^^^ now why does that not shock me in the least????-tyr

Because you're confused. Now scamper away again.

You have no "natural" right to life. You have a right to fight for every breath you take. Every mouthful of food. Every moment of shelter.

We are all blessed with Natural Rights; one could argue whether they come from God or not but life, liberty, property, should not be in question; it is the basis for the DoI and Constitution IMO. When those are violated then watch out.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Because you're confused. Now scamper away again.

I do not scamper, you maggot, you wish so dearly that I would!
Projecting yet again as libs always do.
I suspect that soon I will have exposed enough of your duplicity, insane but disguised shit and racing away or else your rewriting opponents quotes and other lib tactics that you'll meet the same fate as JAFAR EVENTUALLY DID.
Which came about primarily due to more exposing of his fraud too!
Enjoy the battle worm.....
Truth may yet melt you too. I see plastic drops falling more each week now. - --Tyr

[fj1200]

I do not scamper...

You even scamper away from your own cage threads.

[Drummond]

Because you're confused. Now scamper away again.

Tyr isn't confused. He spots you thinking as a Leftie would. He calls you out on it. Talking of which ...

We are all blessed with Natural Rights; one could argue whether they come from God or not but life, liberty, property, should not be in question; it is the basis for the DoI and Constitution IMO. When those are violated then watch out.

All blessed with natural rights, eh ?

Well, that statement would certainly serve, for example, in defending the UK's National Health Service. Lefties over here would argue that 'free' and easy access to the fullest possible medical care was a 'Natural Right', and they'd say that only a State-run system of it could do the job.

Who guarantees that 'Natural Rights' are satisfied, unless the State sees to it ? So, IN FACT, the logic of your argument is one which argues for the flourishing of Big Government, and State control.

State control is the pet project OF THE LEFT. 'Nice' to see that you support the logic which underpins its enforcement, Mr Leftie.

Isn't this exactly as I've promised ? I told you, long ago, that the more you reveal what you believe in, the more obvious it'll be that your thought processes are actually Leftie in nature. No matter how much you protest, the reality is that you think in a particular way, and you can do nothing to stop it.

This is why, when you enter threads, you initially prefer to snipe, instead of just declaring your beliefs from the very start.