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    Default Vatican: Non-Catholics not true Christians

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    The Vatican said other churches were not full churches of Jesus Christ
    The view is likely to further complicate relations with Protestants
    This is the Pope's second strong reaffirmation of Catholic tradition in four days
    A decree on Saturday restored the old Latin Mass alongside modern liturgy

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...eut/index.html

    That's pretty messed up. This new Pope is nothing like the last one.

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    Not really that messed up. I dont agree with his conclusion. But his position is completely consistant.

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    Right. Nothing controversial here. We're Protestants for a reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Right. Nothing controversial here. We're Protestants for a reason...
    Yea, but just because your not Catholic doesn't mean your not a true Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Yea, but just because your not Catholic doesn't mean your not a true Christian.
    Protestants are Not Catholics. We're Protestants. It's entirely acceptable for THE POPE of the Catholic Church to believe Protestants are NOT Christians. NO Faith is worth ANYTHING if the people - especially the leaders - allow they could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Protestants are Not Catholics. We're Protestants. It's entirely acceptable for THE POPE of the Catholic Church to believe Protestants are NOT Christians. NO Faith is worth ANYTHING if the people - especially the leaders - allow they could be wrong.
    Well, it's almost like he's degrading them for not being Catholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Well, it's almost like he's degrading them for not being Catholic.
    No - he's saying "Our way is the TRUE Path to God" - that's commendable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    No - he's saying "Our way is the TRUE Path to God" - that's commendable.
    That's not how I read it. It sounded like him saying since were Catholic we are better then you because your Religion won't take you to God.

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    The Pope is an idiot. Plain and simple truth. Catholicism is getting more like Islam every day. Except Islam doesn't have pedophile priests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    That's not how I read it. It sounded like him saying since were Catholic we are better then you because your Religion won't take you to God.
    He's saying "You are wrong. We are right." that's called Strength of Character. The Catholic Church is MORE loving and MORE giving than ANY organization on the planet
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    The Pope is an idiot. Plain and simple truth. Catholicism is getting more like Islam every day. Except Islam doesn't have pedophile priests.
    Ahem - they are GAY. And I 'think' I'd rather have 100 gay priests over 50 years, than 100 suicide bombers over 10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Ahem - they are GAY. And I 'think' I'd rather have 100 gay priests over 50 years, than 100 suicide bombers over 10 years.
    Ahem! If you don't want to classify them for what they truly are, as in pedophiles, then I bet you have no problem just calling them Christians, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Ahem - they are GAY. And I 'think' I'd rather have 100 gay priests over 50 years, than 100 suicide bombers over 10 years.
    Is that all Gabby does is come in threads and flame?

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    As a Protestant myself, I think the Pope is on to something here. The main line Protestant churches are losing touch with their own traditional beliefs, and are as a result losing congregants.

    And I would agree with Darin, that a religion is pretty weak and not worth following, if it does not believe it is the true way to God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    As a Protestant myself, I think the Pope is on to something here. The main line Protestant churches are losing touch with their own traditional beliefs, and are as a result losing congregants.

    And I would agree with Darin, that a religion is pretty weak and not worth following, if it does not believe it is the true way to God.
    i think they are losing touch and people because some churches are more focused on the religion of christanity than what it is about. the relationship with God and such. more important on how big your church is than if meets the needs of the people and what kinda cars your congegration drives. makes me sad
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