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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Hopefully we can keep the spray paint off HER.

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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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    Ha!




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    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

    “Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I'm not sure that I'm "dug in" I'm NOT saying that ALL cops MUST be fired, I've never said that. i think sometime people listen for the worse in what the other's say.
    I agree with you and mentioned early that different police depts are in fact different.
    One dept in one town may IN FACT have 99% great cops. while in another city it may be 50% with that 50% bad cops in charge and the "good cops" keeping their mouths shut just to survive the environment.

    As far as persocal experience goes I know of a guy that had cops as brothers uncles and father he said that they were all great people ... "to him".
    As long as they knew the the person they were dealing with they were wonderful kind fair etc.. if not they were bullies.

    that was his personal experience.
    I've had EXTREMELY good interactions with some cops and i've had some that were not so good. And the Accounts from my family, friends and neighbors about cops are MIXED but laced with warnings that no law abiding person should have to consider.
    And, Like you, what i've read and watched in the news/studies about certain police depts and singular police show me more objectively that there are real heroes and real problems.
    So my opinion is taken from BEYOND my personal sphere of experience. but it does ALIGN with it in many ways.

    if there's evidence that some view i have is wrong or is not as complete as it should be, i think you know, i'm open to looking at it.
    But frankly on this issue I've not found the same openness from many conservatives.
    The line that "90+% of cops are good" comes across to me as a mantra that is not to be questioned. So the ideas like police "reform", retraining "deescalation", "community policing", "community oversight boards" even putting cameras on police, doesn't really make sense against the mantra, much less the option of cleaning house.
    so deflections and denials, real and imagined, blaming only the liberals and... um "all lives"... for any police "mistakes".

    But hey i'm not sure what i'm missing.
    I not after "good cops".. may their tribe increase.
    I'm just weary of hitting a wall of the idea that "most cops are basically good" so no one should ever complain. let the system work. When there's evidence that it often doesn't.
    Hey Rev, not sure if you are visiting this thread again, but I saw something interesting and thought you might find it so too.

    It pretty much is on policing and why black males have so many problems with police. What it doesn't go into is why the numbers are where they are, in other words, underlying causes. The discussion no one is having, simply because the police aren't the cause or solution to those underlying issues.

    Those problems need to be addressed to families, schools, politicians, and other support systems. These are where the uncomfortable discussions need to happen.



    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


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    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

    “Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
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    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

    “Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
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    That reminded me of a MAN named Ronald Reagan who didn't FEAR those who hated him who said:

    "LIBERALS aren't Ignorant. They just know SO MUCH of what isn't TRUE!"


    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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