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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    And I keep minimizing it, a few short sentences about the SC and the 2nd amendment. But look at how these folks decide things, what they say when doing so. Hell, look at Ginsburg alone and Trump - do you think she could even remotely be impartial? I sure don't. Imagine 2 more of those 3 pictured. Yup, sad indeed it would be. And yep, I didn't do much talking about illegals. Hillary could just push out an executive order, and then who would ultimately decide such a case if contested.

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    My heart is heavy at the prospect of a President Hillary. I'm trying desperately to hold on to yours and Rick's optimism regarding the election, but it's hard when so many members of Trump's own party hate him so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    My heart is heavy at the prospect of a President Hillary. I'm trying desperately to hold on to yours and Rick's optimism regarding the election, but it's hard when so many member of Trump's own party hate him so.
    Don't look at all I say as optimism. It's more like frustration for various reasons. I do think right now, that the race is a little close than the crazy liberal MSM would have you believe, but I also have no doubt that Hillary enjoys a comfortable lead right now. I'm more optimistic about something happening in October, maybe some leaks coming out, or her screwing up in some other manner. But dead on straight against one another, it feels like Trump is fighting an uphill battle against '2' opponents at this moment. IF Trump's own party supported him as Hillary's own party is supporting her, faults an all, then Trump would have a MONSTER lead right now. They are afraid of potential things that could take place with Trump winning the election. So dislike and mistrust aside, they are coming together as a team. They see a HUGE opportunity now with the SC and want desperately to seize on that. Same goes with guns, many on the left would give up their future grandkids if they could find a way to change gun laws or similar. And they will, there is NO doubt about that.

    But if the election were tomorrow, your heavy heart is for good reason.

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    Actually what Hillary is keeping are those that voted for her in the primaries, some Bernie leftovers, a few anti-Trumps. That 1/3 that were independents, has probably grown, but that 1/3 was majority disillusioned Democrats. Now there are more than 1/3, as many that were in GOP are committed to voting, but not wanting Trump or Clinton. While I may be one of a few here, I think there's plenty out 'there' in RL. I personally have moved at least 18 from Clinton/Trump to Johnson, on crazy principles alone. Yep, who'd have thought?

    If it's any consolation, only 2 were likely Trump voters before.


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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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