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    Default Trump calls for Muslim border ban ...

    Reported just minutes ago on the domestic BBC News channel, on our 10PM news, and which appears to be a breaking news story ... a report which says that Donald Trump has called for a total, complete ban on Muslims entering the US !

    According to the report, Trump has called for this in response to large numbers of Muslims having hatred towards America.

    They switched over to a report from the BBC's Washington correspondent, Nick Bryant ... who began his report by waving an A4 sheet of paper in front of the camera - which he said was a Press release from Donald Trump's HQ ... and said that when it first arrived in their Inboxes about an hour ago, it was thought to be a joke .. nobody took it seriously, thinking it was an attempt to parody Trump and couldn't be for real. But they've since confirmed that it's genuine.

    'A total and complete shutdown on Muslims entering the US, until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on'
    . This is Bryant's quote from the Press release.

    Bryant goes on to say that it's been 'condemned as racist demagoguery' by a number of groups there, not least from a number of Muslim groups in America, who've said 'We are now entering into the realms of the fascist'.

    The White House has commented ... says that 'This statement is contrary to US values'.

    Bryant concludes his report by saying that this type of comment from Trump usually propels him into a front-runner position in the race to the White House .. but - Bryant concludes by saying 'Many people will say this isn't the road to the White House, but this is the gutter'.

    Bryant doesn't SAY who'd say that .. I get the impression that this is a bit of ad-hoc 'balanced' reporting (as balanced as it gets from the BBC) slung into the mix by Bryant's team. The report ended.

    A quick disapproving scowl from Huw Edwards (anchorman for the News show) .. they sometimes don't bother to hide such things .. and he moved on to the next item.

    Folks, a comment from me .. I'm impressed ! I'm sure British politicians wouldn't have the freedom to arrange such a ban, even if they were ever inclined to implement one !! I'll no doubt be learning of some White House vitriol on this one in the days to come ...
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    The road to the White House usually goes through the gutter. Nothing new there.

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    It is hardly racist. Islam is NOT a race.

    What he had done was speak up for the feelings of a lot of Americans who
    have no other outlet. People are concerned and Obama is useless.

    The Denier-in-Chief is spineless and refused to take control 3 years
    ago when this threat began to grow.

    Against American values?? Got to stop the leaks sometime, and
    that means Mexicans and Central American Illegals as well
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    The road to the White House usually goes through the gutter. Nothing new there.
    Well .. I approve !!!

    It's a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted .. I'm sure that America has more than 'enough' Muslims already, ban or no ban. Still, the implementation of one surely can't do any harm, either.

    Seeing if Trump has improved his ratings once more should be highly interesting, and if he has, whether Obama's mob are willing to learn anything from that (I somehow doubt it very much). It should add an interesting factor to the race for the Presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    It is hardly racist. Islam is NOT a race.

    What he had done was speak up for the feelings of a lot of Americans who
    have no other outlet. People are concerned and Obama is useless.

    The Denier-in-Chief is spineless and refused to take control 3 years
    ago when this threat began to grow.

    Against American values?? Got to stop the leaks sometime, and
    that means Mexicans and Central American Illegals as well
    Perhaps Obama feels he can sell the message to the People that being 'pro-Muslim' (or at any rate, never daring to annoy them) is somehow, of itself, consistent with American values ?

    That would be fully in line with the British Leftie approach, where the expectation always was that you should defer to whatever they want, on pain of being a 'bigot' or 'racist' if you don't.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Well .. I approve !!!

    It's a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted ..
    I'm sure that America has more than 'enough' Muslims already, ban or no ban. Still, the implementation of one surely can't do any harm, either.

    Seeing if Trump has improved his ratings once more should be highly interesting, and if he has, whether Obama's mob are willing to learn anything from that (I somehow doubt it very much). It should add an interesting factor to the race for the Presidency.
    If a country has one, that is one too many. They should get their own countries and stay there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perianne View Post
    If a country has one, that is one too many. They should get their own countries and stay there.


    Can't help but agree. Having any around is useless at best, harmful (in the extreme ?) at worst.

    Over here, when they're not planting bombs or giving hatespeech rants at or outside mosques, they prove themselves to be expert at claiming State benefit payouts. As much as they hate the country they're in, somehow, this fails to translate to comparable hatred for our money.

    .... 'strange', that ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Well .. I approve !!!

    It's a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted .. I'm sure that America has more than 'enough' Muslims already, ban or no ban. Still, the implementation of one surely can't do any harm, either.

    Seeing if Trump has improved his ratings once more should be highly interesting, and if he has, whether Obama's mob are willing to learn anything from that (I somehow doubt it very much). It should add an interesting factor to the race for the Presidency.
    I am not yet fully in Trump's corner. He is a bit bombastic.

    However, if he does stick to his guns and makes it, I can
    see him cleaning house in an instant - no prisoners taken.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I am not yet fully in Trump's corner. He is a bit bombastic.

    However, if he does stick to his guns and makes it, I can
    see him cleaning house in an instant - no prisoners taken.
    I doubt I will be in his corner until he wins the nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perianne View Post
    If a country has one, that is one too many. They should get their own countries and stay there.
    I won't go that far, M'Lady. Just get rid of or reject the
    ones that refuse to assimilate.

    We should not kowtow to a minority that refuses to
    be a part of this nation. That opinion applies to all
    immigrants as well as the Black Live Matter idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I doubt I will be in his corner until he wins the nomination.
    Time will tell...he needs a strong VP candidate that might grab him
    by his lapels and says "Look, Sir. You need to back off some".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I won't go that far, M'Lady. Just get rid of or reject the
    ones that refuse to assimilate.

    We should not kowtow to a minority that refuses to
    be a part of this nation. That opinion applies to all
    immigrants as well as the Black Live Matter idiots.
    Sounds good on the face of it. However, some of the terrorists who've already launched attacks seemed, beforehand, to 'have assimilated'. The '7/7' London bombing of a decade ago was led by a schoolteacher who nobody had even though of as 'religious', much less 'radicalised'.

    Fact is, you can never be sure of these things. Waiting around to be sure may mean waiting until it's too late ...
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Sounds good on the face of it. However, some of the terrorists who've already launched attacks seemed, beforehand, to 'have assimilated'. The '7/7' London bombing of a decade ago was led by a schoolteacher who nobody had even though of as 'religious', much less 'radicalised'.

    Fact is, you can never be sure of these things. Waiting around to be sure may mean waiting until it's too late ...
    That is quite true.

    They are sneaky and snaky.!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    Reported just minutes ago on the domestic BBC News channel, on our 10PM news, and which appears to be a breaking news story ... a report which says that Donald Trump has called for a total, complete ban on Muslims entering the US !
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...rdino-shooting

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    Finally, a link I can offer .. it took a while for the BBC's website to catch up with their broadcasts !

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35035190


    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has called for a "total and complete" halt to Muslims entering the US, in the wake of the deadly California shootings.He said that polling showed a "hatred" by Muslims towards Americans that could put the nation at risk.

    The border shutdown should remain "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on".

    The White House swiftly criticised Mr Trump's statement as "un-American".

    It is contrary to US values and its national security interests, a statement said.

    Last week, a Muslim couple believed to have been radicalised opened fire and killed 14 people at a health centre in San Bernardino.

    Mr Trump's statement to reporters on Monday said polling firms like the Center for Security Policy had data that showed a hatred by a significant number of Muslims against Americans.

    "Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why, we will have to determine.

    "Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life."
    Here's some biased commentary from a BBC man, from the same link ....

    Again and again during his campaign, Donald Trump has grabbed the Republican Party by the neck and dragged it to the anti-immigration, nativist right.

    With his call for a halt to all Muslim entry into the US - reportedly even for simple tourism - he has set down yet another marker that will force his fellow candidates to stand with him or risk his dismissive ire.

    Mr Trump was ridiculed when he launched his White House bid by accusing Mexico of sending its "rapists and criminals" into the US, and yet the New Yorker shot up in the polls.

    He was denounced after suggesting that some mosques should be closed and Muslims in the US monitored, but he solidified his status as the party's frontrunner. In the end his hardline positions became largely accepted, if not embraced, by his fellow candidates.

    Now he is being roundly condemned for his border-closing proposal. Will this finally be a bridge too far?

    Perhaps.

    Early reports, however, show his supporters welcoming this latest pronouncement. Such is the state of the 2016 presidential campaign season so far.
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