Trump calls for Muslim border ban ...

[Jeff]

I am not threatening anyone. Trump is doing the threatening. His discourse is drawn directly from old Hitler speeches.
Like I have said before, if I could question Trump in person, I would ask him where he is planning to put the concentration camps and whether he plans on using gas or ovens.

There has been a lot of foul comments made about Obama (and other Dems) in this forum over the last eight years or so. I believe Trump deserves equal treatment.
Even my father-in-law, the most conservative of all Republicans, recognizes Trump as Hitler incarnate. Trump is stoking the fans of hatred and discontent the same way Hitler did in his rise to power. Listen to some of Hitler's early speeches and you will recognize Trump's current vitriol.
I have studied that period of 20th century Germany all my life. I know when it is happening.

How many of you have ever fantasized about going back in time to post-WWI Germany and taking out Hitler before he came to power?
You don't have to fantasize about Trump. He is standing before you in real time.

Truth be told, I wouldn't harm anyone not threatening my family. But there are a lot of off balance nutcases out there and a lot of accessible guns.

OOO Hell that does it, your father in law hates, him well hell so do I.


Funny how you want to compare Trump to Hitler but thought it was wrong when folks did it to Obama.

[fj1200]

Constitution: We hardly knew ye.

[Perianne]

Constitution: We hardly knew ye.

The Constitution was written for regular people.

[fj1200]

The Constitution was written for regular people.

If you were conservative you might have known that.

[Perianne]

If you were conservative you might have known that.

Quit changing quotes. It is of poor taste.

[Gunny]

Reported just minutes ago on the domestic BBC News channel, on our 10PM news, and which appears to be a breaking news story ... a report which says that Donald Trump has called for a total, complete ban on Muslims entering the US !

According to the report, Trump has called for this in response to large numbers of Muslims having hatred towards America.

They switched over to a report from the BBC's Washington correspondent, Nick Bryant ... who began his report by waving an A4 sheet of paper in front of the camera - which he said was a Press release from Donald Trump's HQ ... and said that when it first arrived in their Inboxes about an hour ago, it was thought to be a joke .. nobody took it seriously, thinking it was an attempt to parody Trump and couldn't be for real. But they've since confirmed that it's genuine.

'A total and complete shutdown on Muslims entering the US, until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on'. This is Bryant's quote from the Press release.

Bryant goes on to say that it's been 'condemned as racist demagoguery' by a number of groups there, not least from a number of Muslim groups in America, who've said 'We are now entering into the realms of the fascist'.

The White House has commented ... says that 'This statement is contrary to US values'.

Bryant concludes his report by saying that this type of comment from Trump usually propels him into a front-runner position in the race to the White House .. but - Bryant concludes by saying 'Many people will say this isn't the road to the White House, but this is the gutter'.

Bryant doesn't SAY who'd say that .. I get the impression that this is a bit of ad-hoc 'balanced' reporting (as balanced as it gets from the BBC) slung into the mix by Bryant's team. The report ended.

A quick disapproving scowl from Huw Edwards (anchorman for the News show) .. they sometimes don't bother to hide such things .. and he moved on to the next item.

Folks, a comment from me .. I'm impressed ! I'm sure British politicians wouldn't have the freedom to arrange such a ban, even if they were ever inclined to implement one !! I'll no doubt be learning of some White House vitriol on this one in the days to come ...

We are "NOW entering into the realms of fascism"? The left might want to go take a long look in the mirror. They're the biggest bunch of fascists going today.

I don't know that I agree with Trump singling out just Muslims. I think we should stop emigration PERIOD. For ANY and ALL. We can't even support ourselves. Funny the left wants to change every rule in the book and read into the Constitution things it doesn't say; yet, they want to incessantly push this "land of opportunity" notion as if it's written in blood.

[fj1200]

Quit changing quotes. It is of poor taste.

So is racism and xenophobia.

[fj1200]

We are "NOW entering into the realms of fascism"? The left might want to go take a long look in the mirror. They're the biggest bunch of fascists going today.

I don't disagree but why did you quote that?

[Gunny]

So is racism and xenophobia.

So where does common sense come into play? I don't care who they are nor where they come from. We have too many people and not enough jobs. Maybe these entitled immigrants should spend more time working instead of leaching off our tax dollars and making more mouths to feed?

And like it or not, it is neither racist nor xenophobic to point out that it is the minorities in this country doing it. It's just fact. Non-politically correct fact, but fact nonetheless. The only people that actually have to work around here are white.

[fj1200]

So where does common sense come into play? I don't care who they are nor where they come from. We have too many people and not enough jobs. Maybe these entitled immigrants should spend more time working instead of leaching off our tax dollars and making more mouths to feed?

And like it or not, it is neither racist nor xenophobic to point out that it is the minorities in this country doing it. It's just fact. Non-politically correct fact, but fact nonetheless. The only people that actually have to work around here are white.

Of course it isn't racist or xenophobic to point out facts so it's a good thing I wasn't doing so. But to your former point we should have control of our borders and who enters, etc. It also doesn't take a Constitutional Amendment to amend the '64 Immigration Act.

[revelarts]

To quote a song a heard recently that seems rather apt given some of the responses in this thread - 'We've learned from history, so we get to go around again.' - The fact that these kinda comments help rather than hinder Trumps campaign is cause for concern.

great quote here's another along that line.

"History never repeats, but it does rhyme"
Mark Twain

[Gunny]

Of course it isn't racist or xenophobic to point out facts so it's a good thing I wasn't doing so. But to your former point we should have control of our borders and who enters, etc. It also doesn't take a Constitutional Amendment to amend the '64 Immigration Act.

Don't hold your breath waiting on ME to disagree with you. We have and have had all the laws we need. Making another one that won't be enforced doesn't impress me. O'Reilly and his "Kate's Law" crap comes to mind. Enforce the ones we already have on the books instead of making some media sensationalism out of ONE incident. That kind of crap happens every day, but he gets on his narcissistic roll for a redundant cause and everyone gets in an uproar.

Texas put an illegal on death row for riding trains and murdering people at each stop. The laws exist already. Use them. But the Feds can't even control this "sanctuary city" crap. Why should anyone fear a paper tiger?

[Black Diamond]

So where does common sense come into play? I don't care who they are nor where they come from. We have too many people and not enough jobs. Maybe these entitled immigrants should spend more time working instead of leaching off our tax dollars and making more mouths to feed?

And like it or not, it is neither racist nor xenophobic to point out that it is the minorities in this country doing it. It's just fact. Non-politically correct fact, but fact nonetheless. The only people that actually have to work around here are white.

Talk about inconvenient Truth....

[Black Diamond]

What FDR did with Japanese citizens was more extreme than what trump is suggesting. Yet the Left puts him on a pedestal.

[Gunny]

What FDR did with Japanese citizens was more extreme than what trump is suggesting. Yet the Left puts him on a pedestal.

Trump is actually not that smart. He doesn't think things through before opening his mouth. I'd call for a moritorium on ALL immigration. Tht way, even if no one likes the idea, they can't accuse him of singling anyone out.

Personally, I'd send them all to Iraq and the DNC with them. He's screwing up strategically by alienating too many people. I know plenty of people on the right like him because of his tugh talk, but those "plenty of people" aren't going to win a general election. They don't represent the majority and neither does Trump.