Implied Consent

[indago]

Journalist Adam Liptak wrote for The New York Times 11 December 2015:
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The Supreme Court agreed on Friday to decide whether states can make it a crime for motorists suspected of drunken driving to refuse breath, blood or urine tests. Thirteen states have such laws. ...In 2013, in Missouri v. McNeely, the Supreme Court ruled that the police investigating a drunken-driving incident must generally obtain warrants before drawing blood without consent. The state laws get around that ruling by making refusal to consent to testing a separate crime. State officials justify those laws in part on the ground that drivers have given their consent to be tested as a condition of being permitted to drive.

The defendants in the new cases say the laws violate the Fourth Amendment’s ban on unreasonable searches and seizures. Under the Minnesota law, people convicted of refusing to be tested can face a mandatory minimum sentence of three years — and up to seven years — even if they are never convicted of drunken driving.
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[indago]

It's good to see a REAL American standing up for the Constitution and Bill of Rights for a change. There are just too many so-called "Americans" who are so toadified, and into their privileges granted to them by the State, that we have arrived at this type of situation by default.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

It's good to see a REAL American standing up for the Constitution and Bill of Rights for a change. There are just too many so-called "Americans" who are so toadified, and into their privileges granted to them by the State, that we have arrived at this type of situation by default.

There are just too many so-called "Americans" who are so toadified,

Perfect! "Toadified", . Couldnt have said it better myself! -Tyr

[Gunny]

It's good to see a REAL American standing up for the Constitution and Bill of Rights for a change. There are just too many so-called "Americans" who are so toadified, and into their privileges granted to them by the State, that we have arrived at this type of situation by default.

Yeah. We need more drunk drivers out there.

When the good of the whole is threatened by the acts of few, then common sense, not word games with the law should be used. If you're all over the place and you act and smell drunk -- if it walks like a duck ...

People like you crack me up. You wonder why the cops can't protect you but YOU are the ones that make it that way tying their hands behind their backs with your silly-ass semantics.

[indago]

Yeah. We need more drunk drivers out there.

When the good of the whole is threatened by the acts of few, then common sense, not word games with the law should be used. If you're all over the place and you act and smell drunk -- if it walks like a duck ...

People like you crack me up. You wonder why the cops can't protect you but YOU are the ones that make it that way tying their hands behind their backs with your silly-ass semantics.

Yes, it's a given that you would shit on the Constitution and Bill of Rights...

[Gunny]

Yes, it's a given that you would shit on the Constitution and Bill of Rights...

Actually, you got that ass-backwards. I'm a Constitutionalist. I also have common sense when it comes to applying the law. You don't. You're a cop hater no matter what. Your singular viewpoint is as worthless as anyone else's. You're fixated on blaming authority for the acts of criminals.

Well, all I can say is DOn't be a f-ing bad guy and no one's going to bother you.

[indago]

Yeah. We need more drunk drivers out there.

When the good of the whole is threatened by the acts of few, then common sense, not word games with the law should be used. If you're all over the place and you act and smell drunk -- if it walks like a duck ...

People like you crack me up. You wonder why the cops can't protect you but YOU are the ones that make it that way tying their hands behind their backs with your silly-ass semantics.

"If you're all over the place and you act and smell drunk", then it is a given that you should be taken off the road as a danger to others on the road. There is nothing anywhere in the OP that declares otherwise. Besides your reading comprehension problem, what other infirmities do you harbor?

[Elessar]

"If you're all over the place and you act and smell drunk", then it is a given that you should be taken off the road as a danger to others on the road. There is nothing anywhere in the OP that declares otherwise. Besides your reading comprehension problem, what other infirmities do you harbor?

I still believe your defiance of L.E. says you have something to hide.

If a law or statute protects the majority, then it should stand pat.

You twist the Constitution to serve your own agenda.

[aboutime]

Journalist Adam Liptak wrote for The New York Times 11 December 2015:
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The Supreme Court agreed on Friday to decide whether states can make it a crime for motorists suspected of drunken driving to refuse breath, blood or urine tests. Thirteen states have such laws. ...In 2013, in Missouri v. McNeely, the Supreme Court ruled that the police investigating a drunken-driving incident must generally obtain warrants before drawing blood without consent. The state laws get around that ruling by making refusal to consent to testing a separate crime. State officials justify those laws in part on the ground that drivers have given their consent to be tested as a condition of being permitted to drive.

The defendants in the new cases say the laws violate the Fourth Amendment’s ban on unreasonable searches and seizures. Under the Minnesota law, people convicted of refusing to be tested can face a mandatory minimum sentence of three years — and up to seven years — even if they are never convicted of drunken driving.
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Does that 4th amendment apply BEFORE, or AFTER a drunk driver has killed someone while DUI???

[gabosaurus]

Why do so many embrace the constitution concerning alleged drunk drivers, but want to immediately assume that certain people are "terrorists" because of their names or nationalities?

Any laws that can cut down the number of impaired drivers on the roads are good ones. Our laws are WAY too lenient on drunk drivers.
Anyone causing fatalities while driving impaired should be charged with murder.
It is ridiculous to see drivers with multiple DUI convictions still out on the road. Anyone convicted of a second DUI should lose their license for at least five years. Preferably while in prison.

[Elessar]

Why do so many embrace the constitution concerning alleged drunk drivers, but want to immediately assume that certain people are "terrorists" because of their names or nationalities?

Any laws that can cut down the number of impaired drivers on the roads are good ones. Our laws are WAY too lenient on drunk drivers.
Anyone causing fatalities while driving impaired should be charged with murder.
It is ridiculous to see drivers with multiple DUI convictions still out on the road. Anyone convicted of a second DUI should lose their license for at least five years. Preferably while in prison.

Well stated, Gabby.

[Perianne]

Why do so many embrace the constitution concerning alleged drunk drivers, but want to immediately assume that certain people are "terrorists" because of their names or nationalities?

Any laws that can cut down the number of impaired drivers on the roads are good ones. Our laws are WAY too lenient on drunk drivers.
Anyone causing fatalities while driving impaired should be charged with murder.
It is ridiculous to see drivers with multiple DUI convictions still out on the road. Anyone convicted of a second DUI should lose their license for at least five years. Preferably while in prison.

Because if you don't want to be considered a terrorist, don't be a Muslim or have the name Mohammed. duh.

[indago]

Why do so many embrace the constitution concerning alleged drunk drivers, but want to immediately assume that certain people are "terrorists" because of their names or nationalities?

Any laws that can cut down the number of impaired drivers on the roads are good ones. Our laws are WAY too lenient on drunk drivers.
Anyone causing fatalities while driving impaired should be charged with murder.
It is ridiculous to see drivers with multiple DUI convictions still out on the road. Anyone convicted of a second DUI should lose their license for at least five years. Preferably while in prison.

And when you sent that proposal to your legislators, what did they say?

[Gunny]

Why do so many embrace the constitution concerning alleged drunk drivers, but want to immediately assume that certain people are "terrorists" because of their names or nationalities?

Any laws that can cut down the number of impaired drivers on the roads are good ones. Our laws are WAY too lenient on drunk drivers.
Anyone causing fatalities while driving impaired should be charged with murder.
It is ridiculous to see drivers with multiple DUI convictions still out on the road. Anyone convicted of a second DUI should lose their license for at least five years. Preferably while in prison.

You know, if someone assumed I was a bald white redneck with a moustache and gotee, Would I be guilty? Let's see, would it be Wranglers and boots, the camo hat, Marine Corp t--shirts or the big f-ing red pickup that gave me away?

[indago]

You wonder why the cops can't protect you...

Point out where I ever wondered that, oh seer of things unseen!