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    Default Oh Lucky Earthlings!

    This could easily have gone in Science, too, but anyway...

    I'm taking a course on Planets, and every week, the professor at some point talks about how "incredibly lucky" we are that the Earth has this or that feature. Tilt, magnetic poles, etc.

    I'm no scientist or astronomer, but it seems to me that if you don't believe in Biblical creation you should have to come up with something a bit stronger than "luck" to explain such things.

    If this is indicative of learning these days, I can only imagine the huge crop of Atheists our colleges are currently graduating.
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    There are many creation stories. Why choose biblical?

    Luck is better than making up a fairy tale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    There are many creation stories. Why choose biblical?

    Luck is better than making up a fairy tale.

    If ya have to ask...
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    and btw, there are millions of planets that weren't so lucky. A lottery jackpot winner is very lucky. 1 in 350 million is amazing. Why is it hard to believe it can't happen with a planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    If ya have to ask...
    I know the answer. It's all where you were born. If you were born in India, it would be a Hindu creation story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    This could easily have gone in Science, too, but anyway...

    I'm taking a course on Planets, and every week, the professor at some point talks about how "incredibly lucky" we are that the Earth has this or that feature of the planet. Tilt, magnetic poles, etc.

    I'm no scientist or astronomer, but it seems to me that if you don't believe in Biblical creation you should have to come up with something a bit stronger than "luck" to explain such things.

    If this is indicative of learning these days, I can only imagine the huge crop of Atheists our colleges are currently graduating.
    Amen, Abbey! I've thought for a long time that atheists actually do believe in a god - the god of random chance. They believe he can do anything - create life, intricate and interdependent microcosms, stable physical systems. He's amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    and btw, there are millions of planets that weren't so lucky. A lottery jackpot winner is very lucky. 1 in 350 million is amazing. Why is it hard to believe it can't happen with a planet?

    Don't you see your own statement of how amazing it is, points towards it being more than mere "luck"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Don't you see your own statement of how amazing it is, points towards it being more than mere "luck"?
    I do find it amazing, but I don't see how it requires more than luck, no. Please explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    and btw, there are millions of planets that weren't so lucky. A lottery jackpot winner is very lucky. 1 in 350 million is amazing. Why is it hard to believe it can't happen with a planet?
    Pete, I think you are proving Abbey's point about the "huge crop of atheists" our colleges are probably churning out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Pete, I think you are proving Abbey's point about the "huge crop of atheists" our colleges are probably churning out.
    How am I proving it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I do find it amazing, but I don't see how it requires more than luck, no. Please explain.
    Looks like we got ourselves a Richard Dawkins on our hands! Woohoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    Looks like we got ourselves a Richard Dawkins on our hands! Woohoo!
    Insightful, thanks

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    Maybe we can get some feedback from a famous atheist, like Dawkins... wait, he's too busy out there supporting NAMBLA.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    btw, I wouldn't say the earth is lucky. It doesn't care. If you looked back at the history of the earth you'd see exactly why things are the way they are. The earth was not waiting in line for it's habitable ticket to be picked. It is we who are lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    btw, I wouldn't say the earth is lucky. It doesn't care. If you looked back at the history of the earth you'd see exactly why things are the way they are. The earth was not waiting in line for it's habitable ticket to be picked. It is we who are lucky.
    Semantics. Ok.
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