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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I may be missing something from the past few days, but when I searched the site, this was at top.

    Truly disgusting. I hope this time they truly get him and his locked up forever. Clinton too.

    Has been interesting though, liberals chorusing, "Trump! Trump!" and conservatives, "Clinton! Clinton!"

    I still haven't seen much on Trump/Epstein since Rev, (I miss you!) posted this 3 years ago. Went to parties where both attended. Just not seeing the nexus with Trump and Epstein that as there is with Clinton/Epstein.

    One of the articles that tries to draw inferences, I'm just not seeing enough 'there' to be swayed at all:

    https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/2068634...p-bill-clinton
    Evidence suggests that Trump and Epstein knew each other, but didn't like each other.

    If Hilary had won the 2016 election, this story would have never came out, it's only came out now because those in power are sick of the Clintons and have no further use for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    Evidence suggests that Trump and Epstein knew each other, but didn't like each other.

    If Hilary had won the 2016 election, this story would have never came out, it's only came out now because those in power are sick of the Clintons and have no further use for them.
    Nah, heard about Epstein and Clinton back in the earlier 2000s. One of the big New Yorker magazines had a whole thing about him and his rich friends. Yeah, Trump was in there too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Nah, heard about Epstein and Clinton back in the earlier 2000s. One of the big New Yorker magazines had a whole thing about him and his rich friends. Yeah, Trump was in there too.
    A long time ago yes but it is clear that they had a falling out quite some time back that ended up with Epstein being banned from Mar Lago.

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    Another question. Will Epstein commit "suicide" before he says anything about Bill screwing underage girls? Survey says yes.

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    Looks like he may not pay much, if any price? Acosta certainly did know what he was doing:


    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morri...ment-thursday/

    Epstein Judge: I’ll Take Bail Under Advisement Until Thursday
    ED MORRISSEYPosted at 12:01 pm on July 15, 2019

    ...

    That seems to be the general idea here, too. So why didn’t Berman just reject Epstein’s application out of hand? Why wait three days to make a decision on what seems to be a straightforward bail question on yet another wealthy defendant proposing to construct his own jail?


    One has to wonder whether Berman’s looking at the indictment itself. Epstein’s defense team is challenging it as a violation of the Department of Justice’s agreement in 2007 with Epstein. Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy thinks that they have a good argument, and that their chances of getting this indictment tossed are better than people might suspect:

    ...

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...eopardy-rules/

    Acosta’s Sweetheart Deal Likely to Foreclose Epstein’s SDNY Prosecution

    By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY


    July 13, 2019 5:30 AM
    Double-jeopardy rules almost certainly prohibit settling a federal case and then prosecuting it again in federal court.


    Alex Acosta did a bad job on the Jeffrey Epstein case. This column was nearly finished when news broke Friday that he would resign as labor secretary. I was going to argue that his lapses did not justify joining the nakedly political mau-mauing by Democrats who have no interest in exploring the behavior of Democrats who are neck-deep in a monstrous pedophile’s activities. My friend Jennifer Braceras has ably addressed that point in a Washington Examiner column. I was also going to add that I’d shed no tears if President Trump forced Acosta out — easy for me to say, since I think (a) he should never have been nominated in the first place, and (b) his commitment to Trump’s deregulation agenda has never been sufficiently ardent.

    Double Jeopardy
    On Monday, Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, announced that his office has now charged Epstein. While the SDNY indictment may be new, Epstein’s crimes are not. They are the same offenses from which Acosta agreed to spare Epstein from federal prosecution if he pled guilty to state prostitution charges — which Epstein proceeded to do, in reliance on Acosta’s commitment. There is thus a very good chance, based on the Constitution’s guarantee against double jeopardy, that the SDNY case against Epstein will be voided by the SD-Florida non-prosecution agreement (non-pros).


    To be sure, the SDNY has a counterargument, and it will be vigorously made. It has two components. First, there is language in the non-pros that appears to limit the agreement to SD-Florida, to wit: “prosecution in this District for these offenses shall be deferred in favor of prosecution by the State of Florida” (emphasis added). Here, “deferred” effectively means forfeited — the same effect for double-jeopardy purposes as a conviction or acquittal — because of Epstein’s compliance with the requirement that he plead guilty in the state case. Second, there is jurisprudence in the Second Circuit (which controls in the SDNY) holding that one federal district’s agreement does not bind another.


    Therefore, prosecutors will argue that the 2007 SD-Florida non-pros does not bar a 2019 SDNY indictment arising out of the same conduct and charging the same offenses.


    I’m skeptical . . . and I think the SDNY is, too, notwithstanding the brave face prosecutors put on this week. They have carefully drafted an indictment far narrower than the SD-Florida’s contemplated case. If prosecutors really believed that there was no double-jeopardy problem, they’d have no such hesitation: They’d throw everything the FBI ever had at this sociopath. They know they are on thin ice.

    ...

    https://hotair.com/archives/allahpun...-saudi-arabia/

    Feds: We Found An Expired Passport In Epstein’s Safe Under A False Name Claiming He’s From Saudi Arabia

    ALLAHPUNDITPosted at 1:31 pm on July 15, 2019

    This wasn’t the safe on Pedophile Island stashed in a room that no one’s allowed to enter. This was a safe in his ultra-ultra-ultra-luxe Manhattan townhouse.


    The guy’s so shady that something as cartoonishly shady as a fake passport doesn’t make the cut for his most secure hiding place. What the hell’s in the safe on the island? The Necronomicon?

    Add to this to the list of mysteries, then. How’d Epstein make his money? Who are his “clients,” and what service is he providing to them? Why was Alex Acosta allegedly told that he “belonged to intelligence”? And, um, “Jeffrey Epstein” is his real name, isn’t it?


    “Just this morning the government became aware of a safe that contained a pile of cash, diamonds, a passport from a foreign country with a picture of the defendant under another name,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Alex Rossmiller told U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman.


    “The passport was issued in the name of a foreign country, it was issued in the 1980s, it is expired, it shows a picture of Jeffrey Epstein, and another name,” Rossmiller said, adding the passport showed Epstein’s residence as Saudi Arabia.


    We can only guess what sort of illegal activity precipitated his decision to get a false passport 30+ years ago, just in case he had to flee the country when the feds were looking for him. Financial fraud? Sex trafficking? And why Saudi Arabia? That seems random since Epstein doesn’t look Arabic. If he was going to choose a country at random in obtaining a forged passport, you would think he’d choose one where he might more plausibly reside. But maybe it isn’t random. Vicky Ward, who’s been following the Epstein story for years, claimed a few days ago that a former senior White House official(!) told her of Epstein, “He knew a lot of rich Arabs, including the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.” There’s a photo of Mohammed bin Salman, the Kingdom’s crown prince, in his New York home, in fact.


    How’d he get that fake Saudi passport? I’m curious to know if it’s a mediocre fake or good enough to fool an expert. That rumor about him “belonging to intelligence” seems a shade more plausible every day.


    The Manhattan townhouse is the same place where federal agents claim they found “an extraordinary volume of photographs of nude and partially-nude young women or girls,” by the way. The NYT had a charming anecdote about that tucked away at the end of a story this weekend about all of the rich scumbags who happily welcomed him back into elite society after he served time for sex offenses.


    Just three months ago, as federal prosecutors were closing in with new charges, Mr. Epstein had a conversation with R. Couri Hay, a publicist, about continuing to improve his reputation. Mr. Epstein asserted that what he was convicted of did not constitute pedophilia, said Mr. Hay, who declined to represent him.


    The girls he had sex with were “tweens and teens,” Mr. Epstein told him.


    Epstein knew exactly how to reassure members of his class that he was still a “respectable” member of the upper crust after leaving prison, ingratiating himself to faculty and administrators at Harvard (he didn’t go there) and otherwise “surround[ing] himself with prestige” by showing off his wealth and connections. It gave him an air of impunity, which was seductive to friends and intimidating to victims. And I’m sure it also created a sense in people that his crimes simply couldn’t have been *that* bad. If they were, he would have paid more of a price for having committed them, wouldn’t he? That’s what Acosta’s sweetheart deal did for him.


    I have to say, as comprehensively loathsome as Epstein is, there does seem to be a touch of genius to him in knowing how to manipulate people. Increasingly this feels like “Catch Me If You Can” except 8,000 times darker.


    In order to better see just how dark he was, read the Smoking Gun’s account of how Epstein allegedly lured his “number one girl” into his web. It started with money for “massages,” proceeded to repeated acts of statutory rape, involved at least one act of forcible rape, and of course included cash bonuses for recruiting other girls. He was supposedly well aware of the girl’s age too, urging her not to tell anyone her real age. Exit quotation from yet another alleged victim, this one 14 years old at the time: “[S]he thought he was on steroids because he was a ‘really built guy and his wee wee was very tiny.'”



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    Epstein is just one unlucky dude. Had he been able to hold off the pedo charges for say another 20 years, maybe even 10, or less, by then the progressive democrats will probably have normalized pedophilia to the point where at least it's not thought to be illegal.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/o...t-a-crime.html

    It'll make the muslims happy to have pedophilia normalized too, because their prophet married a six year old and raped her when she was nine, and the muslims like to marry little girls too.

    Epstein just got busted too early. He can't help it... he's a just a... let's see... what's the new leftist term for a pedo... oh yeah, "minor attracted person."

    Homos opened this door, and now pedos want to be part of it...

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/09/p...gbt-community/
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Epstein is just one unlucky dude. Had he been able to hold off the pedo charges for say another 20 years, maybe even 10, or less, by then the progressive democrats will probably have normalized pedophilia to the point where at least it's not thought to be illegal.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/o...t-a-crime.html

    It'll make the muslims happy to have pedophilia normalized too, because their prophet married a six year old and raped her when she was nine, and the muslims like to marry little girls too.

    Epstein just got busted too early. He can't help it... he's a just a... let's see... what's the new leftist term for a pedo... oh yeah, "minor attracted person."

    Homos opened this door, and now pedos want to be part of it...

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/09/p...gbt-community/
    As I aid earlier in the thread, if Hillary had won in 2016 no one would have even looked into Epstein, fucking Democrats don't give a shit about kids, or rape, they care about power.

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    Could be interesting:

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...more-grotesque

    “IT’S GOING TO BE STAGGERING, THE AMOUNT OF NAMES”: AS THE JEFFREY EPSTEIN CASE GROWS MORE GROTESQUE, MANHATTAN AND DC BRACE FOR IMPACT
    The disgraced financier “collected people,” said a source. Could some of them be implicated in his crimes? Meanwhile, Alan Dershowitz (“He’s a bad person”) and David Boies (“He’s a liar”) are already at war over the case.




    BY GABRIEL SHERMAN

    he Jeffrey Epstein case is an asteroid poised to strike the elite world in which he moved. No one can yet say precisely how large it is. But as the number of women who’ve accused the financier (at least, that’s what he claimed to be) of sexual assault grows to grotesque levels—there are said to be more than 50 women who are potential victims—a wave of panic is rippling through Manhattan, DC, and Palm Beach, as Epstein’s former friends and associates rush to distance themselves, while gossiping about who might be ensnared. Donald Trump’s labor secretary, Alexander Acosta, architect of the original 2007 non-prosecution agreement that let Epstein off with a wrist slap, has already been forced to resign.


    The questions about Epstein are metastasizing much faster than they can be answered: Who knew what about Epstein’s alleged abuse? How, and from whom, did Epstein get his supposed $500 million fortune? Why did Acosta grant Epstein an outrageously lenient non-prosecution agreement? (And what does it mean that Acosta was reportedly told Epstein “belonged to intelligence”?) But among the most pressing queries is which other famous people might be exposed for committing sex crimes. “There were other business associates of Mr. Epstein’s who engaged in improper sexual misconduct at one or more of his homes. We do know that,” said Brad Edwards, a lawyer for Courtney Wild, one of the Epstein accusers who gave emotional testimony at Epstein’s bail hearing. “In due time the names are going to start coming out.” (Attorneys for Epstein did not respond to a request for comment.)


    Likely within days, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit will release almost 2,000 pages of documents that could reveal sexual abuse by “numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders,” according to the three-judge panel's ruling. The documents were filed during a civil defamation lawsuit brought by Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, a former Mar-a-Lago locker-room attendant, against Epstein’s former girlfriend and alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell. “Nobody who was around Epstein a lot is going to have an easy time now. It’s all going to come out,” said Giuffre’s lawyer David Boies. Another person involved with litigation against Epstein told me: “It’s going to be staggering, the amount of names. It’s going to be contagion numbers.”

    ...


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    Good!

    Bail denied!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Seems like that should have been an easy call. Dude owns a private island outside of the US jurisdiction and federal agents have already located one passport that had his picture in it along with another name.

    I still think this guy ends up killing himself before he can rat out anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTAB View Post
    Seems like that should have been an easy call. Dude owns a private island outside of the US jurisdiction and federal agents have already located one passport that had his picture in it along with another name.

    I still think this guy ends up killing himself before he can rat out anyone else.
    Bail? Certainly. He may not be needed to out people, they have his 'black book' and no notice if he kept some sort of blackmail list.


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    If folks are interested in deep dive into Epstein horror show this is one of the most comprehensive collection/series of reports about the questions and connections.
    (if you want read stories that make Rs look good and just Ds look bad then you'll be disappointed.)

    "Epstein, the billionaire pedophile and sex trafficker with a myriad of connections to the rich and powerful in the United States and several other countries, had told those close to him that he had feared for his life prior to his sudden “suicide,” the Washington Post reported, while his defense lawyers claimed that he had planned to cooperate with federal authorities.

    Following the controversial conclusion by the New York Medical Examiner that Epstein’s death was a suicide — a conclusion contested by Epstein’s attornies as well as by independent forensic pathologists, given the apparent evidence pointing towards strangulation — corporate media coverage of the Epstein case has slowed to a trickle, save for sensationalist stories about his alleged co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell and new salacious details of his past. Gone from corporate media are any hints of the larger scandal, revolving around the admission that Epstein had “belonged to intelligence.” ...."


    https://unlimitedhangout.com/epstein/Epstein
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    Ok
    this is back in the Back page news again.

    And the beat goes on...







    npr.org
    Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, a U.S. Virgin Islands lawsuit says
    The U.S.V.I. says JPMorgan Chase didn't report Jeffrey Epstein's suspicious financial activities and provided him banking services after his 2008 conviction for soliciting a minor.
    https://www.npr.org/2022/12/30/11462...slands-lawsuit

    wait for it...

    Virgin Island Attorney General Denise George Has Been TerminatedGovernment
    Published On December 31, 2022 09:22 PM
    https://viconsortium.com/vi-governme...MMZ3Xo.twitter



    Apparently she's been working this case for years
    nytimes.com
    Virgin Islands Again Questions Epstein Estate Transactions (Published 2020)
    The attorney general there said her office needed more information about $39 million in transactions involving a small bank set up by Jeffrey Epstein.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/b...tein-bank.html



    BTW remember when JPMorgan had this going on
    Cargo ship owned by JPMorgan Chase seized by US with 20 tons of cocaine
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/10/busin...ure/index.html
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    BTW the same JPMORGAN CHASE

    "JPMorgan Chase accused of purging accounts of conservative activists
    JPMorgan first landed in hot water soon after conservative activists Enrique Tarrio, Joe Biggs, Laura Loomer and Martina Markota discovered their accounts at Chase were closed within weeks of each other earlier this year — and without satisfactory explanations, they claim.
    Tarrio is a President Trump supporter and head of the Proud Boys organization. Several Chase managers could not give him a satisfactory reason for the account’s closure. One even called the closing “mind-boggling.”"

    https://nypost.com/2019/05/25/jpmorg...ive-activists/
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    bump...
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