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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Not certain without being able to see what you hooked up, and where. But my guess would be, one of the three prong plugs (if there are three, or four) is giving power to the wrong device.

    I would remove all connections of the cables, and restart making sure the proper ones are in place.

    Otherwise. Somebody else gets the cookies.
    Not the plug, but it was something to do with grounding...

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    Alright, it was only a mistake of mine, so no one may ever guess.

    When you install a new motherboard into a new case, the first thing you do is place down the spacers. These are weird little screws that go into the case. Now when you screw the motherboard down to these spacers, it leaves a distance between the motherboard and the case. Me being in such a rush, I just slapped it down on the case and screwed it in. The motherboard had a short somewhere and that was giving the switch an issue. Before I even did anything, I just shoved some static bags underneath the board to lift it a little, just to see if this was the issue. I knew I had to take it apart to put the spacers in, but did I need a switch too? Sure enough, the switch turns on and off now, and I already put the spacers in and got most put together.

    I also put in 2 new SSD drives which should hopefully be much faster, and quieter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Not the plug, but it was something to do with grounding...

    Jim. Did you replace the washer on the grounding screw? That's supposed to be insulated to prevent shorting. Guessing again.

    TRY "Restart" instead of shutdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Jim. Did you replace the washer on the grounding screw? That's supposed to be insulated to prevent shorting. Guessing again.
    You were still on target with grounding, but read above, it was just my amateur mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Not the plug, but it was something to do with grounding...
    Your motherboard wasn't grounded?
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    Your motherboard is isolated with those screws... you're lucky you didn't blow that baby up!

    A coworker of mine did kind of the same thing on an LTE install down in Valdez... that was a $25,000 mistake when the CPU card smoked. That one was written up as 'failed out of the box'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Your motherboard wasn't grounded?
    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Your motherboard is isolated with those screws... you're lucky you didn't blow that baby up!

    A coworker of mine did kind of the same thing on an LTE install down in Valdez... that was a $25,000 mistake when the CPU card smoked. That one was written up as 'failed out of the box'.
    Yeps, got lucky. Like I said, when you buy the stuff that should be STEP NUMBER ONE!! Most cases now have raised areas on the case where the screws go, just for schmucks like me, so just in case you forget, you still have a fighting chance!!

    Back in the good old days, I was working on various NEW pc's that had come in, like 200 of them for the law firm. Doing some swaps, I put the power going to the motherboard on backwards. Yes, back then the cable would go on either way, you can't make that mistake today. Well you know how that ends, with the power coming on, a small snapping noise and some smoke rising from the MB.

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    And fwiw, once you install these spacers, and then properly screw your motherboard on top of them, that's how you are in fact grounding the motherboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    And fwiw, once you install these spacers, and then properly screw your motherboard on top of them, that's how you are in fact grounding the motherboard.
    Once warned is twice wise. Thanks for the reminder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    That would be the easy way out for you. Women have touched the computer. Figure THAT one out, Einstein.
    Hey you! I figured out how to print with the wi-fi! I'm not techie and am obviously a girl. Of course I ran the wizard on the printer-I did have the IP and the password for modem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Hey you! I figured out how to print with the wi-fi! I'm not techie and am obviously a girl. Of course I ran the wizard on the printer-I did have the IP and the password for modem.
    Oh snap!

    ...and the gauntlet was thrown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Your motherboard is isolated with those screws... you're lucky you didn't blow that baby up!

    A coworker of mine did kind of the same thing on an LTE install down in Valdez... that was a $25,000 mistake when the CPU card smoked. That one was written up as 'failed out of the box'.
    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Yeps, got lucky. Like I said, when you buy the stuff that should be STEP NUMBER ONE!! Most cases now have raised areas on the case where the screws go, just for schmucks like me, so just in case you forget, you still have a fighting chance!!

    Back in the good old days, I was working on various NEW pc's that had come in, like 200 of them for the law firm. Doing some swaps, I put the power going to the motherboard on backwards. Yes, back then the cable would go on either way, you can't make that mistake today. Well you know how that ends, with the power coming on, a small snapping noise and some smoke rising from the MB.
    Here's some trivia: You ground a PC to its case. But what is it grounded to? If you live in a pre-80's house, like as not, your electrical service isn't even grounded. They used to use aluminum wire and they used the neutral as both the return and the ground. If your electrical service isn't grounded, you're screwed, In so many words. Somewhere, that actually has to go to ground. Per NEC code, it's at the first service entrance to the house.

    Food for thought. You might not be as safe as you think. And it STILL ain't making my printer work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Alright, it was only a mistake of mine, so no one may ever guess.

    When you install a new motherboard into a new case, the first thing you do is place down the spacers. These are weird little screws that go into the case. Now when you screw the motherboard down to these spacers, it leaves a distance between the motherboard and the case. Me being in such a rush, I just slapped it down on the case and screwed it in. The motherboard had a short somewhere and that was giving the switch an issue. Before I even did anything, I just shoved some static bags underneath the board to lift it a little, just to see if this was the issue. I knew I had to take it apart to put the spacers in, but did I need a switch too? Sure enough, the switch turns on and off now, and I already put the spacers in and got most put together.

    I also put in 2 new SSD drives which should hopefully be much faster, and quieter.

    To me
    I was just about to guess that Jim, hell ya had to rush to give the answer, Dam I would of won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Here's some trivia: You ground a PC to its case. But what is it grounded to? If you live in a pre-80's house, like as not, your electrical service isn't even grounded. They used to use aluminum wire and they used the neutral as both the return and the ground. If your electrical service isn't grounded, you're screwed, In so many words. Somewhere, that actually has to go to ground. Per NEC code, it's at the first service entrance to the house.

    Food for thought. You might not be as safe as you think. And it STILL ain't making my printer work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    I was just about to guess that Jim, hell ya had to rush to give the answer, Dam I would of won.
    I'm staying at Janeen's house for a week starting day after Easter, I'll bake you some great cookies and ship them to you!

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