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    What will it look like? Once Obama is gone, we are going back in. I realize Obama has some troops there, but the number will skyrocket under the next administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    What will it look like? Once Obama is gone, we are going back in. I realize Obama has some troops there, but the number will skyrocket under the next administration.
    That is difficult to say or speculate on.

    Three mistakes were made in the past.

    When Saddam's ass was kicked in Gulf War I...the coalition did
    not go in and shut him down completely. So he was able to wag
    his finger and rattle his sword all through Bill Clinton's term.

    Gulf War II...Interference with our armed forces insisting on
    "Nation Building" rather than wiping them out. You cannot change
    culture!
    Evidence of WMD was found. The convoys into Syria were
    spotted, but our civilian brain-trust in D.C. refused to acknowledge
    it and backed off support of the Military and the President.

    Obama refusing to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement and
    almost fully pulling out. Yeah, GWB proposed a departure by 2011,
    but that was negotiable.

    Now we have ISIS.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    That is difficult to say or speculate on.

    Three mistakes were made in the past.

    When Saddam's ass was kicked in Gulf War I...the coalition did
    not go in and shut him down completely. So he was able to wag
    his finger and rattle his sword all through Bill Clinton's term.

    Gulf War II...Interference with our armed forces insisting on
    "Nation Building" rather than wiping them out. You cannot change
    culture!
    Evidence of WMD was found. The convoys into Syria were
    spotted, but our civilian brain-trust in D.C. refused to acknowledge
    it and backed off support of the Military and the President.

    Obama refusing to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement and
    almost fully pulling out. Yeah, GWB proposed a departure by 2011,
    but that was negotiable.

    Now we have ISIS.
    Good points


    But what now? We need to take back what we lost??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    That is difficult to say or speculate on.

    Three mistakes were made in the past.

    When Saddam's ass was kicked in Gulf War I...the coalition did
    not go in and shut him down completely. So he was able to wag
    his finger and rattle his sword all through Bill Clinton's term.


    Gulf War II...Interference with our armed forces insisting on
    "Nation Building" rather than wiping them out. You cannot change
    culture!
    Evidence of WMD was found. The convoys into Syria were
    spotted, but our civilian brain-trust in D.C. refused to acknowledge
    it and backed off support of the Military and the President.

    Obama refusing to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement and
    almost fully pulling out. Yeah, GWB proposed a departure by 2011,
    but that was negotiable.

    Now we have ISIS.
    THAT ain't no sh*t. I got my port call time cut short every time that a-hole rattled his sabre. We weren't allowed to go into Iraq (officially) during the First Gulf War. Our mission was to kick him out of Iraq. Bush I had to agree to that for use of Arab airspace and land.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    THAT ain't no sh*t. I got my port call time cut short every time that a-hole rattled his sabre. We weren't allowed to go into Iraq (officially) during the First Gulf War. Our mission was to kick him out of Iraq (Kuwait?). Bush I had to agree to that for use of Arab airspace and land.
    It sucks that the professionals (Military) were hamstrung by the amateurs (Politicians).

    Bolded for clarity?
    Last edited by Elessar; 05-18-2016 at 01:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    It sucks that the professionals (Military) were hamstrung by the amateurs (Politicians).

    Bolded for clarity?
    Nice catch. Was thinking of something else. Yes, Kuwait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Nice catch. Was thinking of something else. Yes, Kuwait.
    Shit..we all boo-boo!

    Takes a bigger man to realize it!
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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