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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So the only difference in some cases between ignorance and vigilance is the religion of the person in question? Seems rather simplistic.
    I neither said nor inferred that. Not one word about
    religion was in my statement.

    Trying to put words in people's mouths again FJ?

    Not all proclaimed Muslims are of Middle East descent.
    Not all Roman Catholics are Italian or from Europe.
    See the pattern of your assumption? Baseless!
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    I'm sorry, people, but if you can't discern the difference between a math problem and Arabic, you are probably too stupid to be walking around in public.

    There was a time back in my college days when I was on a plane back to SF. I was doing some homework in differential equations. The man sitting next to me kept looking at what I was doing. Instead of being a creep, he was a high school math teacher. He ended up helping me with my homework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I'm sorry, people, but if you can't discern the difference between a math problem and Arabic, you are probably too stupid to be walking around in public.

    There was a time back in my college days when I was on a plane back to SF. I was doing some homework in differential equations. The man sitting next to me kept looking at what I was doing. Instead of being a creep, he was a high school math teacher. He ended up helping me with my homework.
    I will not at all argue that.

    What I will argue is people telling me what I am saying.

    We're good to go, Gabby.
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    The most extreme case I have heard of was a guy wearing a robe and a Kippah being reported to security while waiting to board a plane. A woman told police the man "looked like a Muslim terrorist." And he was "writing things in a strange language." Which turned out to be Yiddish.

    Guess some people can't tell their friends from their enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    The most extreme case I have heard of was a guy wearing a robe and a Kippah being reported to security while waiting to board a plane. A woman told police the man "looked like a Muslim terrorist." And he was "writing things in a strange language." Which turned out to be Yiddish.

    Guess some people can't tell their friends from their enemies.
    Old Saying: Ignorance is Bliss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I'm sorry, people, but if you can't discern the difference between a math problem and Arabic, you are probably too stupid to be walking around in public.

    There was a time back in my college days when I was on a plane back to SF. I was doing some homework in differential equations. The man sitting next to me kept looking at what I was doing. Instead of being a creep, he was a high school math teacher. He ended up helping me with my homework.
    Guess you better stay home then, huh? You vote for Democrats. Can't get much dumber than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Guess you better stay home then, huh? You vote for Democrats. Can't get much dumber than that.
    Voting 3rd party is pretty close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Voting 3rd party is pretty close.
    I don't agree with voting 3rd party in any way, shape nor form. I have in fact preached against it for this being the 3rd election.

    At the same time, I understand the quandary and frustration of those that do. Understanding it and doing it are not the same things. I understand the result of jumping off a cliff too. There is a distinction between the two.

    I've just gotten tired of haggling over it.

    I think though my point to the topic is that if you are going to act stupidly and suspiciously, you can count on some ignorant clod busybody to start squealing. I hold myself accountable for my actions and use common sense depending on my environment. Some people have NO clue and view things in completely skewed, biased and/or illogical ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I'm sorry, people, but if you can't discern the difference between a math problem and Arabic, you are probably too stupid to be walking around in public.
    This is a good point. We shouldn't be too hard on the woman - it may be that her head has so few synapses firing that her skull literally feels numb all the time, so maybe she didn't know any better and was just doing her best to look out for terrorists. I will at least give the airline credit for handling the incident well, and give the professor credit for not trying to create a Ferguson event out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Then perhaps you can tell the simple people. The majority is suffering for the actions of the minority. I'd ban all Arab Muslims from entering this country was it me.

    What it explains is Pearl Harbor, 9/11 ... let's pretend it's not there.
    I am. Nevertheless I agree that the majority is suffering because of the actions of a few but we generally don't convict the majority because of the actions of a few. Or so I would have believed before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I neither said nor inferred that. Not one word about
    religion was in my statement.

    Trying to put words in people's mouths again FJ?

    Not all proclaimed Muslims are of Middle East descent.
    Not all Roman Catholics are Italian or from Europe.
    See the pattern of your assumption? Baseless!
    No. I asked a question which you are free to answer or free to ignore. I don't recall your specific stance on kicking Muslims off of planes in other threads but many have defended kicking them off just because they look suspicious but in this case it's been stated that this instance was wrong because of "ignorance" and a "busy body" and I'm trying to discern the difference between the perceived Muslim here and the actual Muslims elsewhere. So what do you think the difference is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm trying to discern the difference between the perceived Muslim here and the actual Muslims elsewhere. So what do you think the difference is?
    This guy was on a plane doing a math problem as opposed to Muslims who were not on a plane doing a math problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by indago View Post
    This guy was on a plane doing a math problem as opposed to Muslims who were not on a plane doing a math problem...
    So we're down to Muslims and math problems. Hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I neither said nor inferred that. Not one word about
    religion was in my statement.

    Trying to put words in people's mouths again FJ?

    Not all proclaimed Muslims are of Middle East descent.
    Not all Roman Catholics are Italian or from Europe.
    See the pattern of your assumption? Baseless!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Isn't that always the case though?

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