Professor and Math Problem

[Elessar]

You and FJ are kind of missing the point.

The other point is elessar and I are trained first responders. We have to assess a situation a split second. There's no room for debate. We act. That's what we do. It's not bragging. There's a heartache side to every bit of it.

I missed this at first reading. I've never seen a better description put
on what we and domestic responders are challenged with.

We have to neutralize our emotions and personal feelings; otherwise
we would go insane. I cannot get emotionally connected with the people
I am trying to save. It came very close, though once:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roz_Savage

Look at that link and scroll down to "The Pacific". I coordinated
that case from the start. I talked that lady off the Brocade so our
helo could rescue her. That aircrew was sensational. They only
had 10 minutes of on-scene time due to fuel.

Another I managed was a tragedy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska...nes_Flight_261

You feel helpless but know you have to plunge ahead and do the right thing.

[fj1200]

Call it ignorance and the inability to pay attention to detail!

Many newspaper articles have sent messages about situational awareness;
in print guidance to what to be aware of that are released, not by the press,
but from proper authority.

That, they ignore it is not the fault of the authority, is the responsibility of
the individual. If they choose to glean over such advice is on their shoulders.

But the first to wail and whine are those very sheep, FJ. You Can't Fix Stupid!

It seems we're having two different conversations. Mine has to do with those sheep on the plane that you think have situational awareness enough so that they should be able to kick anyone off who scares them (it also is exactly what this thread is about). Yours is about something completely different of which I haven't disagreed with no matter how much you try to talk down to anyone you think is in disagreement.

[fj1200]

Who do you think you're talking to? Where is FJ? Who gave him a lobotomy and who is using his account? I understand them all too well. Unlike people that just hate something they don't understand, I study my enemy.

I'm just trying to keep it real for the casual observer who may happen into this thread years down the road.

[Gunny]

I'm just trying to keep it real for the casual observer who may happen into this thread years down the road.

I'm keeping it real too. I don't have time to break out my slide-rule. And every decision you make as a first responder means life or death. And you got about half a heartbeat to make it. THAT is as real as rain. Whose lives do you risk? My Marines? Or noncombatants? My Marines were a team. They'd die for you. And I''m the one stuck giving the order. I damned sure ain't got no time to debate the situation.

[fj1200]

I'm keeping it real too. I don't have time to break out my slide-rule. And every decision you make as a first responder means life or death. And you got about half a heartbeat to make it. THAT is as real as rain. Whose lives do you risk? My Marines? Or noncombatants? My Marines were a team. They'd die for you. And I''m the one stuck giving the order. I damned sure ain't got no time to debate the situation.

I'm fairly certain I haven't disagreed with anything you've said about first responders.