Nigga please!

[Atticus Finch]

Lovely country there in those mountains...Parkersburg perhaps?

a little south of there...I live within a 100 yds of the Ohio River,great fishing most of the time.Mostly smallys ,walleye,sauger and catfish.

[fj1200]

The point he made apparently whooshed right over your little head....IMO. Not his fault. That would be on you. Perhaps since you have such delicate ears, you should put that poster on ignore.

Who said anything about delicate ears? Any point he had went right out the window. But I'm glad I know where you stand.

[fj1200]

I'm well aware of the the cultural nuances you speak of.Just because I'm from WV doesn't mean I'm some naive hill jack who never made it out of the holler.I am also well aware of the politics of race in this country and I hate it.Race hustlers like Sharpton,Jackson,Wright ,Jones,Obama etc., fall well within my definition of nigger.

So you start with using it like black folks use it with each other but now you also have your own definition. Alrighty then.

[DLT]

Who said anything about delicate ears? Any point he had went right out the window. But I'm glad I know where you stand.

Yeah, and we know where you stand, good & plenty. With the idiot left ....in their constant, asinine "political correctness" shaming and chastising little (and I do mean little) selves. Don't you ever get tired of that sanctimonious routine?

[DLT]

So you start with using it like black folks use it with each other but now you also have your own definition. Alrighty then.

Poor widdle melting delicate little snowflake.

It's a shame you can't find something more meaningful to be upset about, eh?

[Atticus Finch]

So you start with using it like black folks use it with each other but now you also have your own definition. Alrighty then.

well it's not a term of endearment either way is it?

[fj1200]

Yeah, and we know where you stand, good & plenty. With the idiot left ....in their constant, asinine "political correctness" shaming and chastising little (and I do mean little) selves. Don't you ever get tired of that sanctimonious routine?

So by "idiot left" do you mean those who call for adherence to the Constitution and advocating for limited government? Or do you mean those who think that only uneducated and ignorant folks think it's OK to use the N-word? I could cop to those. Nevertheless I don't think you know of what you speak.

Poor widdle melting delicate little snowflake.

It's a shame you can't find something more meaningful to be upset about, eh?

I am about as upset when someone uses the N-word as I'm upset when people think it acceptable to use "irregardless" when attempting reasoned discussion. I'm more upset that someone who claims the mantle of conservative would think that is an acceptable argument.

well it's not a term of endearment either way is it?

Sure isn't. It says plenty about those who think it OK to use it though.

[Atticus Finch]

So by "idiot left" do you mean those who call for adherence to the Constitution and advocating for limited government? Or do you mean those who think that only uneducated and ignorant folks think it's OK to use the N-word? I could cop to those. Nevertheless I don't think you know of what you speak.



I am about as upset when someone uses the N-word as I'm upset when people think it acceptable to use "irregardless" when attempting reasoned discussion. I'm more upset that someone who claims the mantle of conservative would think that is an acceptable argument.



Sure isn't. It says plenty about those who think it OK to use it though.

of course you are including our black friends with that statement ...right?

[Black Diamond]

So by "idiot left" do you mean those who call for adherence to the Constitution and advocating for limited government? Or do you mean those who think that only uneducated and ignorant folks think it's OK to use the N-word? I could cop to those. Nevertheless I don't think you know of what you speak.



I am about as upset when someone uses the N-word as I'm upset when people think it acceptable to use "irregardless" when attempting reasoned discussion. I'm more upset that someone who claims the mantle of conservative would think that is an acceptable argument.



Sure isn't. It says plenty about those who think it OK to use it though.

Do you think Mark Twain was ignorant?

[fj1200]

of course you are including our black friends with that statement ...right?

Yup. I'd probably carve out an exception for comedians though... depending on context.

[fj1200]

Do you think Mark Twain was ignorant?

No. And I was thinking about just that very example. Vernacular of the day. Do you think he used it to denote racism or used it in a derogatory manner?

But that is not necessarily a reason for replacing it with a gentler (bowdlerised) term. Twain was undoubtedly anti-racist. Friends with African American educator Booker T Washington, he co-chaired the 1906 Silver Jubilee fundraiser at Carnegie Hall for the Tuskegee Institute – a school run by Washington in Alabama to further "the intellectual and moral and religious life of the [African American] people". He also personally helped fund one of Yale Law School's first African American students, explaining: "We have ground the manhood out of them [African Americans], and the shame is ours, not theirs, and we should pay for it." And his repeated use of that derogatory term in Huckleberry Finn is absolutely deliberate, ringing with irony. When Huck's father, poor and drunken white trash by any standard, learns that "a free nigger ... from Ohio; a mulatter, most as white as a white man ... a p'fessor in a college" is allowed to vote, he reports: "Well, that let me out ... I says I'll never vote agin ... [A]nd the country may rot for all me." It is very clear here whose racial side Twain is on. Similarly when Aunt Sally asks if anyone was hurt in a reported riverboat explosion, and Huck himself answers "No'm. Killed a nigger," she replies, "Well, it's lucky; because sometimes people do get hurt." The whole force of the passage lies in casual acceptance of the African American's dehumanised status, even by Huck, whose socially-inherited language and way of thinking stands firm despite all he has learnt in his journey down-river of the humanity, warmth and affection of the escaped slave Jim – the person who truly acts as a father to him.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/bo...d-unacceptable

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Yeah, and we know where you stand, good & plenty. With the idiot left ....in their constant, asinine "political correctness" shaming and chastising little (and I do mean little) selves. Don't you ever get tired of that sanctimonious routine?

This world is full of sanctimonious people and their sickening arrogance so often knows no bounds.
As full members in the "lets appease everyffing body club" , they walk in circles trying to appear as sages imparting infinite wisdom to the ignorant masses!
I see them as jackasses, all of which reside on the left side of the fence, as no true conservative worships at the massive and cowardly, appeasement altar IMHO..-TYR

[fj1200]

This world is full of sanctimonious people and their sickening arrogance so often knows no bounds.
As full members in the "lets appease everyffing body club" , they walk in circles trying to appear as sages imparting infinite wisdom to the ignorant masses!
I see them as jackasses, all of which reside on the left side of the fence, as no true conservative worships at the massive and cowardly, appeasement altar IMHO..-TYR

Still hiding I see.

[Gunny]

No. And I was thinking about just that very example. Vernacular of the day. Do you think he used it to denote racism or used it in a derogatory manner?


https://www.theguardian.com/books/bo...d-unacceptable

I think he used it as a man of his time. The stories are about the main characters, not the peripheral ones. Jim was a dumbass. Also a product of his time. I loved the character though. You could have made him purple for all I cared.

What color was Lenny in "Of Mice and Men"? Looked pretty damned Wonderbread white to me.

And which leftwingnut socialist President praised "The Birth of a Nation"? The most racist film ever created.

I prefer to look at people in the times they lived in rather than judge them by today's rules.

[Kathianne]

I find a world of difference between PC and being civil.

I find no problem with Jim's reference to tanning beds to a black acquaintance he was interacting with. If she turned that into 'racist' that would be a PC reaction; in other words to bash someone with no ill intent, just to garner sympathy for being a minority race.

OTOH, gratuitously using words many find hateful, 'just because you can' speaks more about the user than the offended.