Brexit ...

[Drummond]

The UK is just one day away, as I type, from voting in a Referendum that'll decide its future, either within the EU, or outside it. We have our one opportunity to vote to exit from the EU, become our own nation once more ... to shake off all of Brussels' lawmaking and other edicts. To be free to choose our own trading opportunities with the rest of the world.

For that matter .. a 'Greece' - type financial disaster visited upon the EU in future either by Greece again, or a larger yet weak economy (such as from Portugal or Spain) could drag the UK down along with the collapse of the EU as a whole. We decide, if we do, to opt out of EU membership, and we've a good chance of surviving it with minimal financial damage.

Freedom, or eventual loss of freedom, subsumed within a far larger Federal structure ? Control of immigration, or to have the EU insist we keep our borders porous ? These are issues which we must now decide upon.

I want 'out', and as soon as possible. I believe in my nation. I believe we should rediscover pride in ourselves and work towards a bright future, one we make OURSELVES.

But if the polls are to be believed, a great many Brits disagree. The vote is on a knife-edge - it could go either way tomorrow (23rd June).

Thoughts, anyone .. ?

[darin]

Best example of what the EU is:



My heart is with you, D and the freedom-loving Brits. This also will set the path towards Western adoption of horrendous liberal/socialist ideals. If the Brits cannot escape the idiot masses, there is not much hope for the yanks.

[Noir]

The good news is that after tomorrow we'll stop being bombarded with every doomsday scenario imaginable.

[Drummond]

The good news is that after tomorrow we'll stop being bombarded with every doomsday scenario imaginable.

... yes ... like, 'Leaving the EU risks the demise of Western political civilisation'. Or, 'Our exit could one day cause WWIII ...'

And, Noir, I'm sure you know, as others here may well not, that these scaremongering claims actually have been made, during the campaign !! ...

If anyone thinks I'm joking ... see, for example ....

https://www.politicshome.com/news/eu...ut-end-western

Donald Tusk, who was the key EU figure in the UK’s renegotiation process, told the German Bild newspaper a vote for Brexit could start of a series of “completely unpredictable” geopolitical events.

He said: “Not only economic implications will be negative for the UK, but first and foremost geopolitical.

“Do you know why these consequences are so dangerous? Because in the long-term they are completely unpredictable.

“As a historian, I am afraid this could in fact be the start of the process of destruction of not only the EU but also of the Western political civilisation.”

Mr Tusk argued that the EU’s “external enemies” would “open a bottle of champagne” in the event of a Brexit vote next week, while “radical anti-Europeans” in other member states would also be pleased.

Aside from the warning of a grave threat to global order, Mr Tusk also implicitly criticised the Conservatives for going ahead with the referendum ......

The EU is no fan of democratic process, nor yet of efforts made to win autonomy ...

[Noir]

Yep, that and all the rest. There is also the small hope that the likes of George Galloway will fade back into obscurity, but maybe I dream too great.

[CSM]

I have been watching this with great interest. The result will be even more interesting. Should the UK decide to remain in the EU, perhaps a revolution would be in order. If that happens, let us know. We can probably give you a few good tips on how to pull it off.

[Noir]

I have been watching this with great interest. The result will be even more interesting. Should the UK decide to remain in the EU, perhaps a revolution would be in order. If that happens, let us know. We can probably give you a few good tips on how to pull it off.

A revoultion against the will of the majority?

[darin]

A revoultion against the will of the majority?

If the will of the majority is tyranny and fascism, yes.

[CSM]

A revoultion against the will of the majority?

I forgot you Brits have no sense of humor...sorry.

[Noir]

If the will of the majority is tyranny and fascism, yes.

And you equate remaining in the EU with tyranny and fascism?

[darin]

And you equate remaining in the EU with tyranny and fascism?

Yeah. I think the EU leads to that because the EU already does that shit. I think those fleeing oppression through socialism/fascism - even those in the minority - must escape all forms. Including and especially the EU.

[Elessar]

A revoultion against the will of the majority?

Yet YOU preach about going against the will of the majority in the USA?

Give me a break!

[NightTrain]

The UK is just one day away, as I type, from voting in a Referendum that'll decide its future, either within the EU, or outside it. We have our one opportunity to vote to exit from the EU, become our own nation once more ... to shake off all of Brussels' lawmaking and other edicts. To be free to choose our own trading opportunities with the rest of the world.

For that matter .. a 'Greece' - type financial disaster visited upon the EU in future either by Greece again, or a larger yet weak economy (such as from Portugal or Spain) could drag the UK down along with the collapse of the EU as a whole. We decide, if we do, to opt out of EU membership, and we've a good chance of surviving it with minimal financial damage.

Freedom, or eventual loss of freedom, subsumed within a far larger Federal structure ? Control of immigration, or to have the EU insist we keep our borders porous ? These are issues which we must now decide upon.

I want 'out', and as soon as possible. I believe in my nation. I believe we should rediscover pride in ourselves and work towards a bright future, one we make OURSELVES.

But if the polls are to be believed, a great many Brits disagree. The vote is on a knife-edge - it could go either way tomorrow (23rd June).

Thoughts, anyone .. ?

I hope you guys get out of the EU and regain your national independence. That EU governing body has handed out some really unpalatable (to me, anyway) rulings, forcing entire nations to do their bidding whether or not they agree with the decision.

Another bonus is reducing Germany's influence upon other nations - Merkel is a loon and is destroying many hapless nations along with her merry band of idiots importing unvetted muslims by the millions.

[Gunny]

I hope you guys get out of the EU and regain your national independence. That EU governing body has handed out some really unpalatable (to me, anyway) rulings, forcing entire nations to do their bidding whether or not they agree with the decision.

Another bonus is reducing Germany's influence upon other nations - Merkel is a loon and is destroying many hapless nations along with her merry band of idiots importing unvetted muslims by the millions.

I got news for the scrawny little pup ... I'm half Scot half Brit. We may have had our differences in the past but that's my island and my heritage too. It disgusts me the way some of these people just lay down their arms and whine. If you told me when I was a kid the Brits would turn into whiny shits like Noir, I'd have laughed at you.

[Noir]

I'm half Scot half Brit...that's my island and my heritage too.

'half scot half brit'
Sure thing bub, if you're going to talk about 'your island' then you might wana atleast get the terminology of your heritage right.