Y'know

[fj1200]

umm ....ants all think alike,so.....

Destroy the nest and take down the whole mess. Eradicate the main stem and mop up
the rest of them.

Assuming you're talking about actual terrorists.

[namvet]

[Gunny]

Now it's the ratio? I still think you're incorrect.

Really? Last actual war we actually won was WWII. It wasn't because we had better stuff. It's because we had more stuff in manpower and materiel.

In case you haven't noticed, this a centuries old war of attrition. Now that we won't fight back, they're winning. They've got more of Europe and the US than at any point in time.

Kill or be killed. It ain't algebra.

[Gunny]

Do the terrorists (domestic and otherwise) and mass murderers not associated with Islamic groups get a pass?

Not with me they don't.

[Gunny]

umm ....ants all think alike,so.....

They all look alike too.

[fj1200]

Really? Last actual war we actually won was WWII. It wasn't because we had better stuff. It's because we had more stuff in manpower and materiel.

In case you haven't noticed, this a centuries old war of attrition. Now that we won't fight back, they're winning. They've got more of Europe and the US than at any point in time.

Kill or be killed. It ain't algebra.

I merely point you back to the killing we've done. Besides we've won wars since then, it's just the aftermath we haven't done so well which brings up the question of why fight it in the first place.

[Gunny]

I merely point you back to the killing we've done. Besides we've won wars since then, it's just the aftermath we haven't done so well which brings up the question of why fight it in the first place.

Circular argument. What we "have done" is the guilt trip the media and politicians live for. They've been creaming their drawers this past week. Takes all the attention off them raping us blind as a people and a society.

The whole point to the fight is THAT. Politicans keep it going to keep attention off them. The media keeps it going to create a story. The idiot militant keeps it going to make money because he can't get a real job.

My idea of fighting is you meet in the ring or on a mat or with some freaking tiddly winks and you shake hand when it's over. Don't let blindness to the obvious skew your mind.

[fj1200]

Circular argument. What we "have done" is the guilt trip the media and politicians live for. They've been creaming their drawers this past week. Takes all the attention off them raping us blind as a people and a society.

The whole point to the fight is THAT. Politicans keep it going to keep attention off them. The media keeps it going to create a story. The idiot militant keeps it going to make money because he can't get a real job.

My idea of fighting is you meet in the ring or on a mat or with some freaking tiddly winks and you shake hand when it's over. Don't let blindness to the obvious skew your mind.

Not when you start with a false premise. I'm not quite sure your argument right now though. I think we should either do what we're doing better (if even possible) or we shouldn't do it at all.

[Gunny]

Not when you start with a false premise. I'm not quite sure your argument right now though. I think we should either do what we're doing better (if even possible) or we shouldn't do it at all.

There is no false premise. We have an enmy we are refusing to address. We'll keep losing until we do.

The false premise is you pretending to be blind to actuality. That elephant in the room isn't going to change into a mouse.

[fj1200]

There is no false premise. We have an enmy we are refusing to address. We'll keep losing until we do.

The false premise is you pretending to be blind to actuality. That elephant in the room isn't going to change into a mouse.

You said we need to kill them back; We are. I'm not blind to reality but we are short on better answers.

[Gunny]

You said we need to kill them back; We are. I'm not blind to reality but we are short on better answers.

We're not doing sh*t to them. Try looking at some history. The only thing that has kept them in check is brute force throughout the centuries. It's no different now than in the 6th century with them. It's all they understand.

YOU don't understand. They don't think like us. Democracy is a stupid word to them. They have no understanding of it, nor even a guideline.

While our end result may be the same -- I'm for kick their asses and get out aand not letting them in -- but our reasons are different. You and so many like you are trying to explain an Arab mind with Western conclusions.

I had to constantly derail my Marines from that mindset. They ARE a dangerous enemy. Treat them for what they are. Not what your dreams want them to be.

[fj1200]

We're not doing sh*t to them. Try looking at some history. The only thing that has kept them in check is brute force throughout the centuries. It's no different now than in the 6th century with them. It's all they understand.

YOU don't understand. They don't think like us. Democracy is a stupid word to them. They have no understanding of it, nor even a guideline.

While our end result may be the same -- I'm for kick their asses and get out aand not letting them in -- but our reasons are different. You and so many like you are trying to explain an Arab mind with Western conclusions.

I had to constantly derail my Marines from that mindset. They ARE a dangerous enemy. Treat them for what they are. Not what your dreams want them to be.

Thank you for telling me what I know, think, and understand.

[Gunny]

Thank you for telling me what I know, think, and understand.

I DO think and understand. And I know when it's time to quite talking and man the line. You're easy. You wouldn't stand a chance against me. You're too busy caught up in your beliefs and ignoring physical law.

The guy that knows how to fight wins. The guy that thinks his mouth and idealism is a weapon gets killed.

[fj1200]

I DO think and understand. And I know when it's time to quite talking and man the line. You're easy. You wouldn't stand a chance against me. You're too busy caught up in your beliefs and ignoring physical law.

The guy that knows how to fight wins. The guy that thinks his mouth and idealism is a weapon gets killed.

I can see that your mind is made up. No point in saying more. :shrug:

[Gunny]

I can see that your mind is made up. No point in saying more. :shrug:

Let's get real, bubba. My mind is open. Just not so open as I can't make a point and/or hold beliefs. Seems to me YOU are the one with the indecisive mind. I've never had that luxury. I look at both sides of an argument on my own time. I never got to sit behind my desk with a slide rule and calculate crap the day after I had to make the decision.

Some of you people just blow me away. You don't get to second guess in my game. You act or someone dies.

So yeah, once I DO make a command decision, I'm going with it. I'll ask for forgiveness after every swinging d*ck is back aboard ship.